Hoid fighting?

[noobedmaster7]

Could hoid use the same method nomad used in sunlit man to eventually fight? If so how long would it take for him to recover his ability to fight and would siphoning off the connection decrease his lifespan?

[Treamayne]

11 hours ago, noobedmaster7 said:

Could hoid use the same method nomad used in sunlit man to eventually fight? If so how long would it take for him to recover his ability to fight and would siphoning off the connection decrease his lifespan?

Unlikely this is possible - mostly because Hoid wouldn't want to do this and doesn't have the mindset to do this. Also, Nomad's Oaths were very different from Hoid's.

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Brandon Sanderson

Let's talk about the Torment for a second. Hoid would not call what has happened to him a Torment. Hoid, by holding a Dawnshard, was made permanently unable to cause physical harm to other beings. Eating meat makes him nauseous (if he is somehow able to eat it, and a lot of the times he just can't). That is because of the nature of the Dawnshard that he held actively warping and changing his spirit. He would not name it this. Nomad has named what has happened to him, a Torment. This is not a term that you can universally apply as a magical aspect of something. This is Sigzil saying "this terrible thing happened to me". And indeed what is happening to Sigzil is on a level beyond what happened to Hoid. So therefore perhaps other arcanists would say, "Yes, these are an aspect of holding a Dawnshard and Torment is the right way", but that word is loaded. That word has meaning, and someone is naming it this. You are not gonna run into a large set of people- there are only four Dawnshards- and you're not gonna run into a large set of people that have held one, so there may be no consensus even in-world to what these are called, and if they are Torment or blessings or what they are. Holding a Dawnshard will warp your soul. It's so much Investiture, it is so powerful, that you cannot hold one even briefly without it having a permanent effect upon you. 

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SilverG347

Could one assume by what Nomad said that Radiant oaths can circumvent the consequences of holding a Dawnshard? Also, if so, since Hoid has Design as his spren, what does it mean for him?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, potentially, and RAFO. Reference earlier discussions in this stream, however.

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Hope that helps

[Ascended Grubberfly He/Him]

46 minutes ago, noobedmaster7 said:

Could hoid use the same method nomad used in sunlit man to eventually fight? If so how long would it take for him to recover his ability to fight and would siphoning off the connection decrease his lifespan?

It would be extremely difficult to get it set up. He would have to kidnap someone from Yolen, get them to Canticle, let the sun kill an unwilling target, and recover the sun heart before the locals do.

I do think it could help him fight, but I don’t know how the lifespan is affected. The Dawnshards haven’t gotten much screen time so it’s hard to tell if removing the Torment also removes some of the benefits.

 

[Nitpicking]

33 minutes ago, Ascended Grubberfly said:

It would be extremely difficult to get it set up. He would have to kidnap someone from Yolen, get them to Canticle, let the sun kill an unwilling target, and recover the sun heart before the locals do.

So that's what happened to Frost!

[The White Drake]

8 hours ago, noobedmaster7 said:

Could hoid use the same method nomad used in sunlit man to eventually fight? If so how long would it take for him to recover his ability to fight and would siphoning off the connection decrease his lifespan?

He held the Dawnshard for a lot longer, so it would be a lot harder to rip off his limitation like that, and it might hurt. He'd also need to suppress spiritual healing, and I imagine it would be impossible while he is currently bearing the Dawnshard. Decrease his lifespan though? There are plenty of ways to achieve infinite lifespan, and he has multiple. Might drop his healing factor down a notch though.