Donning and Doffing living shardplate

[DoctaDajman]

Is living shardplate summonable? Deadplate must be donned and doffed in a slow process that involves lifting massive weights piece by peice to put it on... I guess if you get the legs on first for a good base and then the arms you could use the strength from those to hoist up the chest piece and helmet last... but how does living plate do it?  

Do the spren move to the radiant / user when needed?  If they can be commanded to protect someone else by chance... could plate spren also be sent out into space as flying heavily invested massively dense and heavy projectiles? I know it is likely a really odd way of using plate but a spinning, flying, no go zone of shardplate pieces could be a super effective weapon. For people who cant hold ground it is possible a ranged bludgeoning shardplate vambrace or gauntlet spinning around would be far more deadly than even Vin's belt buckle attack. 

But I haven't read far enough to have any ideas of how plate spren exist in the physical realm or how they are treated in terms of donning and doffing. 

I assume they have some semblance of mobility as the eye slat can be slammed shut. 

If they could be commanded to fly or move through the physical realm, could they also do so while transparent as we see some radiants protected by plate that doesnt appear to the naked eye. 

[Frustration]

Shardplate is summoned and forms instantly

[DoctaDajman]

24 minutes ago, Frustration said:

Shardplate is summoned and forms instantly

When it is taken off does it leave the physical realm? Or can it move on its own within the physical realm? Or are the spren just right in the cognitive realm always attached to the place of the radiant / user?  

[Frustration]

39 minutes ago, DoctaDajman said:

When it is taken off does it leave the physical realm? Or can it move on its own within the physical realm? Or are the spren just right in the cognitive realm always attached to the place of the radiant / user?  

Depends on the radiant order.

Elsecallers plate goes to the cognitive realm, Lightweaver plate turns to beads, and Windrunner plate remains Windspren, while also being on 24/7, how? don't know.

[Treamayne]

36 minutes ago, DoctaDajman said:

When it is taken off does it leave the physical realm? Or can it move on its own within the physical realm? Or are the spren just right in the cognitive realm always attached to the place of the radiant / user?  

The spren follow their radiant around - In Oathbringer, we see Kaladin use the windspren that will eventually become his Plate to divert the highstorm Winds when he is Protecting the fleeing humans captured by the Singers in Part 1 (for example). Because they are following him in teh Physcial Realm, they also briefly appear in Shadesmar while he is on Notem's Boat. Shallan's Plate Spren frequently appear around her while she is drawing. 

For the most part, based on current known information, Plate Spren in the Physical Realm can only perform activities related to what type of Spren they are. Kaladin;s fly around because they are Wind Spren - and Windrunner Plate can fly to other people to Protect them because that aligns with Windrunner Oaths. We do not see similar things happen with Jasnah's or Shallan's Plate and what they might accomplish in the Physical Realm (as LogicSpren and CreationSpren, respectively) has not been revealed much yet. 

Hope that helps

[DoctaDajman]

4 minutes ago, Treamayne said:

The spren follow their radiant around - In Oathbringer, we see Kaladin use the windspren that will eventually become his Plate to divert the highstorm Winds when he is Protecting the fleeing humans captured by the Singers in Part 1 (for example). Because they are following him in teh Physcial Realm, they also briefly appear in Shadesmar while he is on Notem's Boat. Shallan's Plate Spren frequently appear around her while she is drawing. 

For the most part, based on current known information, Plate Spren in the Physical Realm can only perform activities related to what type of Spren they are. Kaladin;s fly around because they are Wind Spren - and Windrunner Plate can fly to other people to Protect them because that aligns with Windrunner Oaths. We do not see similar things happen with Jasnah's or Shallan's Plate and what they might accomplish in the Physical Realm (as LogicSpren and CreationSpren, respectively) has not been revealed much yet. 

Hope that helps

This is super helpful. So do you think windspren making liveplate can likely negate their massive weight and become neutrally bouyant? 

If windspren were convinced that the best way to protect someone that the radiant wanted protected was to infact go on the offensive do you think they could pummel some badguys and become flying non-sharp shards? 

Even without the ability to sever souls, shardplate is heavy. I dont know how many spren make up plate but divided by roughly 1300 and with an ability to fly even 100fps you could have some terrifying offensive ability there. 

As for the unoathed shardbearer... if their plate were made of windspren, and there was no oath binding those spren to the ideals of protection could the spren be convinced to work in this manner?  

14 minutes ago, Frustration said:

Depends on the radiant order.

Elsecallers plate goes to the cognitive realm, Lightweaver plate turns to beads, and Windrunner plate remains Windspren, while also being on 24/7, how? don't know.

I'm glad you are back. I have missed seeing you in the vs threads. As someone without enough time to read all of the books, and really no desire for the stormlight storyline, the unoathed vs has my mind racing and excited for cosmere magic again. 

2 years is a long time to be gone. Would they happen to have been the best 2 years? Just curious. Welcome back either way!  

[Frustration]

5 minutes ago, DoctaDajman said:

I'm glad you are back. I have missed seeing you in the vs threads. As someone without enough time to read all of the books, and really no desire for the stormlight storyline, the unoathed vs has my mind racing and excited for cosmere magic again. 

2 years is a long time to be gone. Would they happen to have been the best 2 years? Just curious. Welcome back either way!  

Why thank you it's good to be back.

They were certainly two of the best, whether they were the best remains to be seen, I'd like to get a couple more years out before making that call.

[DoctaDajman]

11 minutes ago, Frustration said:

Why thank you it's good to be back.

They were certainly two of the best, whether they were the best remains to be seen, I'd like to get a couple more years out before making that call.

When I experience the best of anything I try to make sure its not the best forever. Might as well add better on top of it from there. 

Do you suppose that every spren type making plate retains an amount of their powers somehow? And could they make that passive for the user inside?  

Like could being surrounded by windspren who all have the ability to fly turn flying into a now passive ability that doesnt need stormlight?  

Could Kaladin's windspren carry him around like a heavenly one replicating lashing to some unknown limit for free?