Question 4

[mail-mi he/him]

When the Astoria thread starts, I have an idea of how to introduce the Lost Ones: In the Portland thread, one of Mommy's children can run away and become Epic, and either they have something that can detect child Epics, or (s)he can happen upon them.

Idea: Pan can be the epic that detects child Epics!

[Newan he/him]

I love them both.

 

Are Lillian's clothes reflective as well? Do either of them wear flashy costumes, or do they wear normal attire?

 

Lillian wears thin, but modest clothes.  Any thick costumes would slow down things that were hitting her, making her reflections less powerful.  

 

The first time Blastaway died, he was wearing jeans and a t-shirt, along with a black cape.  Every time he resurrects, those clothes resurrect with him.  He has since decided that the cape is a little bit too much, so he takes it off soon after he resurrects.  But just like his bad attitude, it keeps coming back to him.  

 

They sound awesome.

 

Although, what does "attack" mean, in Lillian's case? Does it have to be something like a bullet or a knife, could it be a punch or a kick, or would a gentle fist-bump between her shoulder blades do the job? (Additionally, does she wear protective armor over her back?) 

 

With Blastaway, how large is his blast radius? Can he control it, and if so, is the force automatically concentrated, or can he create smaller explosions? (For instance, could he blow up just a priceless Ming vase without harming anything nearby, or would the force of a larger explosion be concentrated within that Ming vase and cause the entire building to explode with the vase as its epicenter?) 

 

Also, any objections to having them ponified? (Silly question. They'll be ponified, objections or not. ) 

 

Lillian reflects any impact. Even a high-five would be reflected.  She does have the ability to turn off this power selectively, but only subconsciously.  So she doesn't constantly create craters when she walks, and she has the ability to comb her hair without needing an invincible brush.  However, she can't turn off the reflection on purpose.  (She wore a bullet-proof vest while her back was healing, but now that it is better, she chooses not to.  It impairs her ability to reflect bullets.)

 

Blastaway can't control his explosions precisely, but he does control how large they are.  If he explodes immediately, it's likely to kill anyone who was standing right next to him and give burns to those who were standing at the edge of the room.  If he charges up for several minutes, he could take out a whole building.  That's the upper limit of his power.  He couldn't charge for three weeks, then blow up the entire state.  He's not that OP.  

 

I don't object to ponification!  It would be difficult to make a picture of something reflective though.  Hmm... maybe if it could hack webcams... 

[Kobold King he/him]

So whose character is Pan going to be?

I'd be happy with Fatebreaker playing Pan.

 

 

Idea: Pan can be the epic that detects child Epics!

 

Ooh, here's an idea: any Epic who manifests powers within a wide radius of Pan will sporadically see Pan's shadow out of the corner of their eyes. (The radius could potentially cover the whole of Oregon, if people like TwiLyght are willing to foreshadow it when characters of theirs gain powers.)

 

While adults will only see the shadow flicker briefly in their peripheral vision, child Epics are capable of touching the shadow; by clasping hands with it, they'll be instantly brought to Pan's island.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

I'd be happy with Fatebreaker playing Pan.

 

 

 

Ooh, here's an idea: any Epic who manifests powers within a wide radius of Pan will sporadically see Pan's shadow out of the corner of their eyes. (The radius could potentially cover the whole of Oregon, if people like TwiLyght are willing to foreshadow it when characters of theirs gain powers.)

 

While adults will only see the shadow flicker briefly in their peripheral vision, child Epics are capable of touching the shadow; by clasping hands with it, they'll be instantly brought to Pan's island.

 

I approve of all of this. 

 

Though it might make sense to have the strength of his shadow be tied to how far away from Pan they are. For example, new Epics in Astoria would see the shadow as though it were standing beside them. Corvallis, Salem, and other somewhat nearby towns and cities would see the shadow as still strong, but fainter. New Epics in The Dalles would see it far more faintly, though it would grow stronger and more solid the closer they got to Astoria. 

 

What do you think? 

[Kobold King he/him]

I approve of all of this. 

 

Though it might make sense to have the strength of his shadow be tied to how far away from Pan they are. For example, new Epics in Astoria would see the shadow as though it were standing beside them. Corvallis, Salem, and other somewhat nearby towns and cities would see the shadow as still strong, but fainter. New Epics in The Dalles would see it far more faintly, though it would grow stronger and more solid the closer they got to Astoria. 

 

What do you think? 

 

Ooh, I like this. Should he be aware of his shadow and its movements, and thus the only person in Oregon instantly aware of new Epics as they appear?

 

So here are the powers we have thus far:

 

• Flight
• Enhanced speed and hand-eye coordination (useful for swordfights)
• Accelerated healing
• Epic-seeking shadow projection (passive ability)

Maybe his healing could be connected to his eternal youth--his healing factor prevents his body from changing, like Mundivore?

[mail-mi he/him]

I'd be happy with Fatebreaker playing Pan.

Ooh, here's an idea: any Epic who manifests powers within a wide radius of Pan will sporadically see Pan's shadow out of the corner of their eyes. (The radius could potentially cover the whole of Oregon, if people like TwiLyght are willing to foreshadow it when characters of theirs gain powers.)

While adults will only see the shadow flicker briefly in their peripheral vision, child Epics are capable of touching the shadow; by clasping hands with it, they'll be instantly brought to Pan's island.

And that's how one of Mommy's children can get to Pan! He sees a faint something out of the corner of his eye, and as he turns around, he reaches out for it and suddenly he's on an island surrounded by other children.

[mail-mi he/him]

Ooh, I like this. Should he be aware of his shadow and its movements, and thus the only person in Oregon instantly aware of new Epics as they appear?

So here are the powers we have thus far:

• Flight
• Enhanced speed and hand-eye coordination (useful for swordfights)
• Accelerated healing
• Epic-seeking shadow projection (passive ability)

Maybe his healing could be connected to his eternal youth--his healing factor prevents his body from changing, like Mundivore?

He's a gifter too, right? (Sorry for double post, on a phone.)

[Kobold King he/him]

And that's how one of Mommy's children can get to Pan! He sees a faint something out of the corner of his eye, and as he turns around, he reaches out for it and suddenly he's on an island surrounded by other children.

He's a gifter too, right? (Sorry for double post, on a phone.)

 

Sounds good to me.

 

Right. I think we established early on that he'd passively gift his agelessness to all vanillas in his vicinity.

 

TwiLyght, what would you think about briefly mentioning a flickering shadow after the Unicyclist gains his powers? He'll be the first newly awakened Epic in the RP.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Maybe they haven't ticked her off yet, or even have something of a truce with her, but change their tune when Blackwave's crew allies with the Diamond Queen?

What? When did that get decided?

 

 

TwiLyght, what would you think about briefly mentioning a flickering shadow after the Unicyclist gains his powers? He'll be the first newly awakened Epic in the RP.

Technically, that's Sightline.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Sounds good to me.

 

Right. I think we established early on that he'd passively gift his agelessness to all vanillas in his vicinity.

 

TwiLyght, what would you think about briefly mentioning a flickering shadow after the Unicyclist gains his powers? He'll be the first newly awakened Epic in the RP.

 

I can do that. 

 

What? When did that get decided?

 

 

Technically, that's Sightline.

 

True, but he got his powers in more of a prologue type thing, before the timeline of the RP. The Unicyclist will get his powers in-game. 

[mail-mi he/him]

Sounds good to me.

 

Right. I think we established early on that he'd passively gift his agelessness to all vanillas in his vicinity.

 

TwiLyght, what would you think about briefly mentioning a flickering shadow after the Unicyclist gains his powers? He'll be the first newly awakened Epic in the RP.

 

Okay good. So how are all of the Lost Ones (the ones that are Epics) ageless too? 

 

*cough cough* Timeport *cough cough*

[Kobold King he/him]

Technically, that's Sightline.

*cough cough* Timeport *cough cough*

 

This has been another episode of "Hasty and Uninformed Statements by Kobold King!"

 

I thought we were explaining the Lost One's youth to the slower aging enjoyed by Epics.

 

If Fatebreaker's getting Pan, can I call dibs on Epic!Felix?

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

And is that a definite yes on the Financier providing them with their island? Doing so would definitely be in character for him. 

[mail-mi he/him]

And is that a definite yes on the Financier providing them with their island? Doing so would definitely be in character for him. 

 

That sounds good.

 

So when should I have one of Mommy's children disappear? When the Astoria thread gets put up?

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Newan, since it looks like the Astoria thread is going to be a thing, I'll tell you the main differences between Astoria and The Dalles so you can decide where your characters best fit. 

 

The Dalles is currently ruled by a former National Guard commander named Stephen Vondra. Two years ago, a healing Epic called Koschei the Deathless came to The Dalles with the intent to conquer it. He failed, but did quite a lot of damage before he was killed, including killing Vondra's oldest son. Present-day Vondra rules The Dalles like a military garrison, wielding absolute power as mayor. All Epics who were within the town borders after Koschei's death were given the choice of working for the City Guard—with restrictions placed on when and where they could use their powers—or death. Although many of the more powerful Epics lord their position over their fellow citizens, Vondra attempts to keep The Dalles a safe place for humans to live. There is Quicksilver's gang, which has attracted some of Koschei's former followers and others with a more sadistic streak, and there is currently an invasion of anthropomorphic pandas, but if you're human or a Low Epic, The Dalles is definitely going to be your best bet. 

 

Astoria hasn't appeared in any depth so far (save for a few cameos and mentions), and you will definitely need to ask Edgedancer for the specifics, as he's fleshed the place out pretty well in his notes. From what I understand, Lucentia rules it with an iron (diamond?) fist, tortured or conscripted many of the more powerful Epics into submission, and has a diamond garden full of severed heads. It's not a nice place, from what I can gather, though nearly all of the Epics created for that thread are either OP or close to it. (To give you an idea, Kobold has an Epic who can steal strength and other attributes from sharks by holding their teeth, mine can divide by zero, and Edgedancer's can trap people in diamond like flies in amber.) 

Edited December 2, 2014 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

BlackWave is another Astoria Epic. (Pan's Archnemesis.) He can create Water, and Control the Tides. And Mailliw has a Quartet of Inane Epics as well.

[Newan he/him]

Newan, since it looks like the Astoria thread is going to be a thing, I'll tell you the main differences between Astoria and The Dalles so you can decide where your characters best fit. 

 

The Dalles is currently ruled by a former National Guard commander named Stephen Vondra. Two years ago, a healing Epic called Koschei the Deathless came to The Dalles with the intent to conquer it. He failed, but did quite a lot of damage before he was killed, including killing Vondra's oldest son. Present-day Vondra rules The Dalles like a military garrison, wielding absolute power as mayor. All Epics who were within the town borders after Koschei's death were given the choice of working for the City Guard—with restrictions placed on when and where they could use their powers—or death. Although many of the more powerful Epics lord their position over their fellow citizens, Vondra attempts to keep The Dalles a safe place for humans to live. There is Quicksilver's gang, which has attracted some of Koschei's former followers and others with a more sadistic streak, and there is currently an invasion of anthropomorphic pandas, but if you're human or a Low Epic, The Dalles is definitely going to be your best bet. 

 

Astoria hasn't appeared in any depth so far (save for a few cameos and mentions), and you will definitely need to ask Edgedancer for the specifics, as he's fleshed the place out pretty well in his notes. From what I understand, Lucentia rules it with an iron (diamond?) fist, tortured or conscripted many of the more powerful Epics into submission, and has a diamond garden full of severed heads. It's not a nice place, from what I can gather, though nearly all of the Epics created for that thread are either OP or close to it. (To give you an idea, Kobold has an Epic who can steal strength and other attributes from sharks by holding their teeth, mine can divide by zero, and Edgedancer's can trap people in diamond like flies in amber.) 

 

I think my epics belong in Astoria.  A fight between Lucentia and Lillian Razor would be shiny enough to make Funtimes cry.

[mail-mi he/him]

I have an epic on each side basically. Reader works for Vondra, and he instantly knows everything about a person just by looking at them. BusDriver works for Quicksilver. He can turn anything into a bus, and complains about it. Wandersail is the helmswoman for Blackwave, and she has power over wind, and knows exactly where she is on the planet and the cardinal directions at any given time. I control one of Mailliw's Destructors, and now I have a kid who will be with Pan.

Now I just need one who works with Lucentia

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

I think my epics belong in Astoria. A fight between Lucentia and Lillian Razor would be shiny enough to make Funtimes cry.

So you've discovered her weakness. (Kidding. It's not shinies. If it were, most of my posts in this RP would be nonsense.)

Also, I thought of the one thing that would break the game. Nothing niggling about power types or limitations, but the revelation that teleporters do not exist in the Reckonersverse.

(I think there's canon evidence for them though. And even if they haven't been mentioned, the chances they exist in a world a with evil!Superman are excellent.)

[Mailliw73 he/him]

New Edgerunner post up.

Also, roughly when do we want to start the Astoria thread? I'm really getting excited for it.

[Edgedancer he/him]

Awesome, thanks!

 

I'll post the bios for two of my epics.  I have others in the back of my mind, but they aren't as rounded out yet.  

 

Lillian Razor, Epic Hunter

Lillian is an Epic Hunter for three reasons: (1) She hunts epics.  (2) She is an epic who hunts. (3) It is epic when she hunts.

 

Unlike others like Prof or Sightline, she isn't killing epics for altrustic reasons.  More on that later.  

 

Appearance:  Lillian is reflective, like a mirror.  Even her eyes and hair are reflective.  It's slightly unsettling until you are used to it.  

 

Power: Reflection (Passive).  She can reflect anything.  Lasers, heat attacks, and projectiles just bounce off.  Even abstract attacks like Deathpoint would be reflected.  

This power makes physics cry.  She can reflect cold attacks.  When someone punches her, the force that would go into her is reflected back into the fist.  Because there was already supposed to be an equal and opposite reaction, the force going back at the fist is twice what it should be.  When she punches something, double the force is applied and she feels nothing.  

 

Weakness:  This is too important to her character to withhold.  Her weakness is her son, Bobby Razor.  As every elementary school child knows, if you step on a crack, it will break your mother's back.  Soon after Calamity turned Lillian into the mirror epic, Bobby stepped onto a crack in the sidewalk.  Cracks appeared all up and down Lillian's back.  Any attack to Lillian's back would kill her.  

 

It took seven years for those cracks to heal.  Lillian isn't going to let that happen again.  Ever since that fateful day, Bobby has been strapped to a chair suspended five feet off the ground in the basement of the Razor home.  She does her best to give him a comfortable life.  Bobby has never lacked food, movies, books, or video games in his life.  But he also hasn't seen the sun, or talked to anyone besides his mother, in seven years.  

 

Lillian hunts epics because her powers are passive.  Someone has to attack her for her to feel like an Epic.  And Epics don't feel guilt.  

 

Blastaway, Agent of Chaos.  

Blastaway's default setting is unhappy.  Even before he became an Epic, nobody had ever seen him smile.  Then one day, he was surrounded by warm red light.  Something inside him changed, and he knew that there was something that could bring him peace: Chaos.

Appearance: He's something like 21 years old, he always has dark bags under his eyes, and his hair is light gray.  Imagine Nico from Percy Jackson and the Olympians, but older and with different hair. 

 

Power: Self-Destruction.  Blastaway can explode.  If he charges up for a larger explosion, he starts to glow red, then white.  

 

Passive power:  Resurrection.  Blastaway might be the most skilled resurrector in the world.  If he is concentrating pre-mortem, he can choose where he resurrects within a 4 mile radius.  If death sneaks up on him, the location of his resurrection is random.  When he resurrects, he does not suffer from confusion, memory loss, extra personalities, or increased craziness.  He just reverts to being extremely unhappy again.  It makes character growth a little bit difficult.  

 

Together he can use these powers as a very explody teleportation.  

They seems nice, although I have three questions and one problem (plot wise) about Razor.

1) Are we talking light shines from her reflective or is she essentially a mirror?

2) What about attacks that start inside of her, like Corpsemaker causing her brain to collapse or someoe making her swallow a bomb.

3)How exactly does her weakness work? Does her son have to step on a crack everytime and what happens when he dies?

The Problem: With her son in a basement she´s essentially bound to one location and an Epic hunter like that might just draw atention, especially if she spend the first seven years with a vulnerable spot on her back, meaning she probably would have died going up against high Epics.

 

I know the Astoria thread was still just talk at this point, though it's beginning to look like more of a serious plan. I'd need to see Blastaway in action to judge how OP he is; if he's too OP for The Dalles, we could always talk to Edgedancer and see how soon is too soon to start the Astoria thread. (The biggest snarl there is that Lucentia, who rules there, is currently subjecting Portland to her incessant complaining. If Edge didn't have any objections, I think someone mentioned starting the Astoria thread while Lucentia is absent and focusing on a few outside plots and court intrigue. Since he writes for the Queen, though, it'd be up to him when the thread starts.) But the characters we have for Astoria are all a little OP anyway, so if Blastaway is too OP for The Dalles, he might be a better fit for Astoria. 

 

Edit: 

 

 

 

Even if the hints she has are pretty obscure, that power might be game-breaking. (And I'm not sure how canon it is, either.) And even if it were neither, there would be wars started over this girl as Epics like Steelheart tried to recruit someone who could just know their opponents' weaknesses. Maybe something like strength detection—she can determine how strong an Epic's powers are and how much of a threat they might be? 

 

Sure, if you all want to we can start the Astoria thread soon. Although I just found out that I´ll probably will be gone with no internet accsess for the second week of December, then the holidays essentially start, after that it´s Firefight.

How about this, in case this RP survives Firefight hitting continity holes into us the sice of everything we can start in the second/third week of January,

 

I´ll have to agree on objecting to weakness detection, it would turn the girl into a walking ground zero, because just about every Epic wants her death.

 

What if we started Astoria and the shenanigans that go on there (Lost Ones, Blackwave, Destructors, etc.) are what bring her back to her kingdom? (queendom?)

That´s one way to go about it.

 

And is that a definite yes on the Financier providing them with their island? Doing so would definitely be in character for him. 

If they have an island near to Astoria it might be better to establish what kind of relationship they had with them exactly.

 

BlackWave is another Astoria Epic. (Pan's Archnemesis.) He can create Water, and Control the Tides. And Mailliw has a Quartet of Inane Epics as well.

He can create water, was that in his profile? It just seems to make the water part of water healing redundant.

 

So you've discovered her weakness. (Kidding. It's not shinies. If it were, most of my posts in this RP would be nonsense.)

Also, I thought of the one thing that would break the game. Nothing niggling about power types or limitations, but the revelation that teleporters do not exist in the Reckonersverse.

(I think there's canon evidence for them though. And even if they haven't been mentioned, the chances they exist in a world a with evil!Superman are excellent.)

Not having teleporters would feel weird with all these supers running around.

Edited December 2, 2014 by Ookla the Edgedancer

[Newan he/him]

They seems nice, although I have three questions and one problem (plot wise) about Razor.

1) Are we talking light shines from her reflective or is she essentially a mirror?

2) What about attacks that start inside of her, like Corpsemaker causing her brain to collapse or someoe making her swallow a bomb.

3)How exactly does her weakness work? Does her son have to step on a crack everytime and what happens when he dies?

The Problem: With her son in a basement she´s essentially bound to one location and an Epic hunter like that might just draw atention, especially if she spend the first seven years with a vulnerable spot on her back, meaning she probably would have died going up against high Epics.

 

1) She's essentially a mirror.

2) Corpsemaker's attack relies on sight.  She's reflective.  So if he tried to use his basilisk attack on her, he would be looking himself in the mirror.  However, her interior is vulnerable.  Swallowing a bomb, or even poison, would kill her.  

3) Every time her son steps on a crack, her reflective layer will fracture a little bit more, starting from her back.  It takes seven years from the event for these cracks to heal.  Bobby doesn't have to be alive for this weakness to work.  If somebody cut off his leg, then touched his foot, or the skeleton of his foot, or the dust left behind by the immolation of his foot to a crack in the ground, it would activate Lillian's weakness.  

4) She hasn't gone up against any High Epics yet.  She spent those seven years laying low, only picking fights she knew she could win.  Now that she has finally completely healed, she's ready to take some names.  

 

Also, nobody knows about Bobby.  Anyone who knew the Razors pre-Calamity assumes that Bobby is dead.  

 

Edit: Here is Lillian's icon:

 

And here is Blastaway's icon:

Edited December 2, 2014 by Newan

[Fatebreaker he/him]

Molly was just an idea. Nothing is set in stone. Well, except Chicago Joe I guess. And parts of Miner?

 

 

If Fatebreaker's getting Pan, can I call dibs on Epic!Felix?

 

I'm cool. The Lost boys I created can be up for grabs, just let me know if ya want one.

 

Question for Newan: you say she subconsciously nullifies her ability on her feet so she can walk. Technically, could someone stab her through the soles of her feet if she wasn't expecting it?

 

Also, I have finals this week and next, so I'll do my best to hang around, but I make no promises.

[Edgedancer he/him]

1) She's essentially a mirror.

2) Corpsemaker's attack relies on sight.  She's reflective.  So if he tried to use his basilisk attack on her, he would be looking himself in the mirror.  However, her interior is vulnerable.  Swallowing a bomb, or even poison, would kill her.  

3) Every time her son steps on a crack, her reflective layer will fracture a little bit more, starting from her back.  It takes seven years from the event for these cracks to heal.  Bobby doesn't have to be alive for this weakness to work.  If somebody cut off his leg, then touched his foot, or the skeleton of his foot, or the dust left behind by the immolation of his foot to a crack in the ground, it would activate Lillian's weakness.  

4) She hasn't gone up against any High Epics yet.  She spent those seven years laying low, only picking fights she knew she could win.  Now that she has finally completely healed, she's ready to take some names.  

 

Also, nobody knows about Bobby.  Anyone who knew the Razors pre-Calamity assumes that Bobby is dead.  

 

Edit: Here is Lillian's icon:

Lillian Razor icon.png

 

And here is Blastaway's icon:

Blastaway icon.jpg

2)I think I´m leaving the final say on this to Joe.

3)I see. By the way, I appreciate you being open on this.

4)Just because she hasn´t attacked high Epics doesn´t mean that high Epics didn´t go to find out what´s going on with the regular murder of Epics in their territory. To quote Steelheart

 

I have claimed this city, little Epic. It is mine. And it is my right to dominate the people here, not yours.

By the way, rereading the Prologe and the final, Steelheart is freaking badchull.

Molly was just an idea. Nothing is set in stone. Well, except Chicago Joe I guess. And parts of Miner?

 

 

 

I'm cool. The Lost boys I created can be up for grabs, just let me know if ya want one.

 

Question for Newan: you say she subconsciously nullifies her ability on her feet so she can walk. Technically, could someone stab her through the soles of her feet if she wasn't expecting it?

 

Also, I have finals this week and next, so I'll do my best to hang around, but I make no promises.

If we want to get really literal then part of Lucentia is as well.

 

Talking about that, she also would have to let down her power on her ears and eyes to get sensory information, although that would still cut of senses like smell and touch.

[Voidus]

Ah!!! Things happened!?