Dhatri

[First of the Tide He/him]

What do we actually know about dhatri? The coppermind page is tiny, and I found 1 WoB about it.

I coulda swore we knew like a whole lot about it, and like I had some fairly deep world building about it in my head, but I cant find anything but that its a 12-world, its based on the Indian subcontinent, and it's got the uncorrupted spores/aether's there. I thought maybe I was remembering AoN world building, but that doesn't match at all, (and I feel like AoN is gonna be pretty far off from final aether book anyway but that's irrelevant). Any idea where i'm getting all this? Am I just Crazy? Am I searching the wrong thing? 

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4 hours ago, First of the Tide said:

What do we actually know about dhatri? The coppermind page is tiny, and I found 1 WoB about it.

I coulda swore we knew like a whole lot about it, and like I had some fairly deep world building about it in my head, but I cant find anything but that its a 12-world, its based on the Indian subcontinent, and it's got the uncorrupted spores/aether's there. I thought maybe I was remembering AoN world building, but that doesn't match at all, (and I feel like AoN is gonna be pretty far off from final aether book anyway but that's irrelevant). Any idea where i'm getting all this? Am I just Crazy? Am I searching the wrong thing? 

There are nine WoBs regarding Dhatri (Aether Planet tag), but much of what we do know (which is not much) cannot yet be discussed here due to the current spoiler period. if yo uhave not yet read IED, you may consider doing so . 

You may be thinking of the period when Aethers had been added to Liar of Partinel as part of Yolen's story - but that decision was reversed before drafts were even complete (though there are some preview chapters around)

Liar WoBs:

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Brandon Sanderson

One thing to note now--I wasn't very satisfied with Glimmer's dialect myself, and DavidB's comments tipped me over the edge.  I'm now thinking of going with something more like this:

Aether. a voice said in her mind.  It was light and airy, like a voice carried on the breeze, and felt lethargic.  King.

Yunmi glanced down at the rose-colored crystal embedded into her forearm just above her wrist.  King Theus? She thought.

Aether. the voice responded, dull, slow.  As always, Glimmer's voice was accompanied by images in her head, filling out the single word.  This time, the image was of a dark black crystal set into a man's hand.  Theus's hand, which had been covered by a glove when Yunmi had met him.

So Theus does have an Aether, Yunmi thought.  Did you speak to it?

Unresponsive, her Aether replied. Old.  In her mind, Yunmi saw the Theus's Aether as Glimmer did--as a thing ancient, barely capable of putting out Aetherpulp.  A thing tired, yet forced to continue living on, attached to the king's flesh.

Also, I don't like Glimmer's name, so consider that a placeholder right now.

TWG Posts (Feb. 20, 2007)

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Seonid

Aether of Night, aethers also show up in Liar of Partinel...

Brandon Sanderson

Yeah, that was...

Seonid

Was that cannibalized...

Brandon Sanderson

That was a cannibalization, it's an attempt at repurposing and I didn't like it so it probably won't go forward that way but it was an attempt because it worked so well to mash Allomancy and Feruchemy into the same system and I didn't like how it went but...

Salt Lake City Comic-Con 2014 (Sept. 4, 2014)

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Aethy

Aether of Night was cannibalized; it's no longer going to be released. Apparently some of the concepts were taken and worked into other books, so it's no longer publishable.

Peter Ahlstrom

Actually it might be un-cannibalized. Some concepts went into Liar of Partinel, but now that book won't ever happen in that form. So there could still be one or more Aether books in the future. But it would be a ground-up rewrite like happened with Mistborn and Stormlight.

WeiryWriter

Wait, really? That's pretty big news, even just possibility of it happening. I presume the Shards of the world would change then? Since Decay got reworked to be Ruin and such?

Peter Ahlstrom

Yeah, Decay is essentially Ruin, so lots of things would change there. But the magic of the Aethers, especially, could get their own book later.

There is a reason that Aethers are already canon. I don't think anyone has figured that out yet. But the backstory Brandon gives them could change in the future, or could end up never materializing.

General Reddit 2014 (Dec. 18, 2014)

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simonthekillerewok

How much have the aethers changed since Aether of Night? 

Brandon Sanderson

The big change I made to the aethers, other than adding this other world... A couple things going on with the aethers.

First off, when you finally meet people who bear the aethers (which we're calling aetherbound, currently, and I like that term), you will find that, in order to differentiate them from things like seons and things like spren bonds and things like that, I've decided that one core aether bonds a lot of people, and it's one entity that you are all bonding with. So, if you meet five aetherbound who have bound to the Verdant aether, they are all bound to the same individual, at least on the core aether world. And that just adds a different nuance to it. There is lore and worldbuilding that is different that I will leave. There's a lot that's the same; there's a lot that's different that I'll leave to you to discover. I am working quite a bit on this planet for future projects (which, no, I haven't secretly been writing yet). But that's the big change.

And the other change is that I decided that aethers would be able to... I would have different things happening with them, different strains. In their own lore, they were not... the aethers themselves don't believe they were created by Adonalsium. And so they're, like, a different sort of thing, a different entity, so to speak. And this goes back, even, to way back when I tried to write them into Liar of Partinel, them predating things like the Shattering and what not, and it feels right for how I want to treat them.

Those are a few little tweaks that you will eventually get. But the basic mechanics of how they work is the same as they worked in Aether of Night. I think that one of the things that really worked in Aether of Night was the mechanics of the aethers. I thought they had a lot of interesting storytelling play, I thought that they did different things than some of the other magics that I was writing did. And they have remained solidly a part of my brain for how the Cosmere will proceed. And that's why you see Mraize having a chunk of an aether and things like that in his trophy case. 

simonthekillerewok

We know there are multiple planets with aethers, so do both of these worlds exist simultaneously? Or is this one an evolution of The Aether of Night's Vaeria? 

Brandon Sanderson

They do both exist simultaneously; this one came from that one. The answer to both is "yes." 

Secret Project #1 Reveal and Livestream (March 8, 2022)

 

Hope that helps