Aluminum_Ferring Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 So we know that Sak's ability to forsee possible deaths for Dusk is unique, as Vathi tried bringing other ravens but they didn't get the same ability. Could it be that Sak got this special ability because he was the second nahel bond for Dusk? I think this may be the case because Shallan bonded both Pattern and Testament and has the ability to access fortune while drawing, so I thought a similar thing may be happening with Dusk and Sak. Apologies if this has been posted before. 1
Treamayne Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 (edited) Welcome to the Shard. Please consider an Intro Post to let us know what you have or have-not read (whichever list is shorter). Also, please consider checking out the Sharder FAQ for some useful forum info and tips. On 10/23/2025 at 11:48 PM, Aluminum_Ferring said: So we know that Sak's ability to forsee possible deaths for Dusk is unique, as Vathi tried bringing other ravens but they didn't get the same ability. Could it be that Sak got this special ability because he was the second nahel bond for Dusk? I think this may be the case because Shallan bonded both Pattern and Testament and has the ability to access fortune while drawing, so I thought a similar thing may be happening with Dusk and Sak. Apologies if this has been posted before. Interesting theory - but Dusk is the one with two bonds and Sak is the one with the ability. Possible, but not knowing what ability other Ravens get (IED Ch 15) makes it hard to analyze. That said, I think it is either: Patji intervened, so Sak received an ability speficically to help Dusk achieve Patji's goals Sak is not a Raven; instead is a related, but different, subspecies of Corvidae (and First of the Sun biologists have not yet mapped enough of the frozen southern continent to realize a separation of Species) Hope that helps Edited January 25 by Treamayne SPAG 3
listerfeend Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 10/24/2025 at 7:35 AM, Treamayne said: Interesting theory - but Dusk is the one with two bonds and Sak is the one with the ability. Possible, but not knowing what ability other Ravens get (IED Ch 15) makes it hard to analyze. That said, I think it is either: Patji intervened, so Sak received an ability speficically to help Dusk achive Patji's goals Sak is not a Raven; instead is a related, but different, subspecies of Covidae (and First of the Sun biologists have not yet mapped enough of the frozen southern continent to realize a separation of Species) Hope that helps Is Dusk very unique in the fact that he has two Aviar? I don't recall the number of bonds feeling unique to him, just the death visions. I would assume that, if trying to replicate that specific ability by taking ravens to the island, they would have at least tried to replicate the scenario as closely as possible.
Isilel Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 1/19/2026 at 3:54 PM, listerfeend said: Is Dusk very unique in the fact that he has two Aviar? No, his uncle had three. I imagine that most trappers have more than one, since a mind-shielder is non-negotiable for survival on and around those islands.
listerfeend Posted January 21 Posted January 21 20 hours ago, Isilel said: No, his uncle had three. I imagine that most trappers have more than one, since a mind-shielder is non-negotiable for survival on and around those islands Yeah, that was what I thought as well. Glad I'm not absolutely crazy
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