Radiant Orders of Cradle Characters (Will Wight)

[Teravangian]

When it comes to cradle, I find the character arcs similar to the stormlight archive. In that vein, below I will share what order I think they would be, and then I really, really, want to hear how you agree/disagree. Time to start.

Lindon - Dustbringer

Yerin- Skybreaker

Mercy - Edgedancer

Ziel - Windrunner/Stoneware

Orthos - Lightweaver (LB wouldn't have an order YET I think)

Eithan/Ozmanthus - Elsecaller

What did I get right and wrong?

[Use the Falchion]

I remember this from the general post! I definitely agree with most of these!

I think the only two that are wrong are Yerin, Orthos and Eithan. Orthos doesn't really fit the Ideals of any Order, but the closest he'd be is a Skybreaker IMO. He sees himself as a dragon, and he upholds the virtues and mentalities of a traditional dragon. He tries to teach others (mostly Lindon) what this means, and he supposedly meditates on these ideals. Orthos, in the Stormlight world, would be one who has sworn himself to the ideals of the Blackflame Dragons, and ultimately chooses to embody what HE thinks they are at their most ideal level. 

Eithan, despite me calling him an Elsecaller earlier, is probably closer to a Willshaper with only undertones of Elsecaller in there. Eithan is FIERCELY independent and stresses under the confines of order. He's not an anarchist or something similar, like how we picture the Vroshir to be, but he also doesn't like the rules in structures of the systems he's involved with. He hates how Cradle has the "might makes right" and "it's lonely at the top" mentalities. He hates how the Abidan have an "if it isn't broken for us, why fix it or try to improve it?" mindset. He wants to change those, from the ground up. That's a Willshaper to me. 

 

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Ozriel, however, was 100% an Elsecaller. 

 

Yerin is also weird. She's an Elsecaller to me, in that she wants to be the best she can be. But I can see her as something of a Skybreaker towards the end of the series. I think post-Waybound, she'd be a solid Skybreaker. 

[Teravangian]

12 hours ago, Use the Falchion said:

I remember this from the general post! I definitely agree with most of these!

I think the only two that are wrong are Yerin, Orthos and Eithan. Orthos doesn't really fit the Ideals of any Order, but the closest he'd be is a Skybreaker IMO. He sees himself as a dragon, and he upholds the virtues and mentalities of a traditional dragon. He tries to teach others (mostly Lindon) what this means, and he supposedly meditates on these ideals. Orthos, in the Stormlight world, would be one who has sworn himself to the ideals of the Blackflame Dragons, and ultimately chooses to embody what HE thinks they are at their most ideal level. 

Eithan, despite me calling him an Elsecaller earlier, is probably closer to a Willshaper with only undertones of Elsecaller in there. Eithan is FIERCELY independent and stresses under the confines of order. He's not an anarchist or something similar, like how we picture the Vroshir to be, but he also doesn't like the rules in structures of the systems he's involved with. He hates how Cradle has the "might makes right" and "it's lonely at the top" mentalities. He hates how the Abidan have an "if it isn't broken for us, why fix it or try to improve it?" mindset. He wants to change those, from the ground up. That's a Willshaper to me. 

 

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Ozriel, however, was 100% an Elsecaller. 

 

Yerin is also weird. She's an Elsecaller to me, in that she wants to be the best she can be. But I can see her as something of a Skybreaker towards the end of the series. I think post-Waybound, she'd be a solid Skybreaker. 

I would argue when you view the whole context of Oz/Eith, that he would be an Elsecaller, because he doesn't dislike rules, he wants to change them to be what he envisions they could be. In other words he's a visionary who will never stop. I see that as Elsecaller. For the rest though, yeah, Orthos wouldn't have an order. I put him in Lightweaver because he tries to understand his dragony-ness. Yerin, I think, also wouldn't be a radiant for most of her career, until she does become a Skybreaker.

That is my argument, I stand with it. This is a fun topic though, isn't it?

[Use the Falchion]

On 10/9/2025 at 7:43 AM, Teravangian said:

I would argue when you view the whole context of Oz/Eith, that he would be an Elsecaller, because he doesn't dislike rules, he wants to change them to be what he envisions they could be. In other words he's a visionary who will never stop. I see that as Elsecaller.

That's fair! From what we know of Elsecallers, they're all about reaching their potential. That's DEFINITELY Ozriel, but that's not Eithan IMO. Eithan has reached his potential and is now helping others reach theirs. I think Willshaper fits better because he's trying to break down the rules of multiple organizations...although unlike other Willshapers, he's trying to build it to something better. (Interesting that Willshapers, according to the Coppermind (which get their source from the Knights Radiant quiz and the audio-shorts from the WoR Kickstarter) that attract builders and teachers then.)