Debates

[Keke They/he]

thisll probably be a bad idea 

but sometimes i wanna get my super brain tested and have a smart debate about something i love.

so

WHO WANTS TO HAVE A DEBATE WITH ME PLS I HAVENT BEEN INTELECUALLY CHALLENGED IN TO LONG 

uh we could debate about alot

star wars

cosmere 

anime

books in general

ANYTHING 

my brain needs food

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

2 minutes ago, Clinically insane said:

thisll probably be a bad idea 

but sometimes i wanna get my super brain tested and have a smart debate about something i love.

so

WHO WANTS TO HAVE A DEBATE WITH ME PLS I HAVENT BEEN INTELECUALLY CHALLENGED IN TO LONG 

uh we could debate about alot

star wars

cosmere 

anime

books in general

ANYTHING 

my brain needs food

OOO Cosmere debates??

I'm done debating policies rn SO LET'S DO SOMETHING FUN!! :D:D

*politics

[Keke They/he]

Just now, Through The Living Glass said:

OOO Cosmere debates??

I'm done debating policies rn SO LET'S DO SOMETHING FUN!! :D:D

YEAH

we need something we disagree on to start…. So unpopular opinion

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

6 minutes ago, Clinically insane said:

YEAH

we need something we disagree on to start…. So unpopular opinion

hmmmmmm

The Wonka movie was mid

Katniss should've chosen Gale

mmmmm yeah

You got any?

[Keke They/he]

Just now, Through The Living Glass said:

hmmmmmm

The Wonka movie was mid

Katniss should've chosen Gale

mmmmm yeah

You got any?

Uhhhh 

uhhh

im pretty basicccc

tenya ochaco is a better ship then deku and ochaco 

i dunno

i got plenty of Star Wars opinions and other stuff that you haven’t watched 

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

1 minute ago, Clinically insane said:

Uhhhh 

uhhh

im pretty basicccc

tenya ochaco is a better ship then deku and ochaco 

i dunno

i got plenty of Star Wars opinions and other stuff that you haven’t watched 

Yeah I haven't watched any of those

[Keke They/he]

2 minutes ago, Through The Living Glass said:

Yeah I haven't watched any of those

Darn …… hmmmm

Im in a lockdown rn

my teacher said that if someone comes in he will jump at them then we gotta beat them to death

my history teacher is the bestest ever i love him so much

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

Just now, Clinically insane said:

Darn …… hmmmm

Im in a lockdown rn

my teacher said that if someone comes in he will jump at them then we gotta beat them to death

my history teacher is the bestest ever i love him so much

dang

Okay then

Is it a drill or no?

[Keke They/he]

11 minutes ago, Through The Living Glass said:

dang

Okay then

Is it a drill or no?

It was a drill its done now

and the message keeps popping up so now we confused on if we gotta hide again lol

HERES A DEBATE TOPIC

should we tell people its a drill or not?

so we warn if its a drill, or we have the drill but dont tell anyone

Edited March 5, 2025 by Clinically insane

[Entr0pic He/him]

4 minutes ago, Clinically insane said:

It was a drill its done now

and the message keeps popping up so now we confused on if we gotta hide again lol

HERES A DEBATE TOPIC

should we tell people its a drill or not?

so we warn if its a drill, or we have the drill but dont tell anyone

I would argue that a not saying that it’s a drill would cause unwanted panic and confusion, which could lead to chaos, which could lead to someone getting hurt. Additionally, the stress could be harmful alone to some people I’d imagine.  

[Keke They/he]

Just now, Timiny said:

I would argue that a not saying that it’s a drill would cause unwanted panic and confusion, which could lead to chaos, which could lead to someone getting hurt. Additionally, the stress could be harmful alone to some people I’d imagine.  

Yeah but at the same time let the teachers know then the kids who have that on their 504 or iep know.

cause when they know its a drill they dont follow the storming procedures and are loud and stuff so they cant properly practice for a real thing

[Mags she/they]

31 minutes ago, Through The Living Glass said:

Katniss should've chosen Gale

. . . . . 

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

Just now, Magi said:

. . . . . 

FIGHT ME

[Entr0pic He/him]

4 minutes ago, Clinically insane said:

Yeah but at the same time let the teachers know then the kids who have that on their 504 or iep know.

cause when they know its a drill they dont follow the storming procedures and are loud and stuff so they cant properly practice for a real thing

So, if i understand your argument correctly, then you’re arguing that there would be chaos when there was an actual emergency, and doing drills that aren’t labeled as drills would help with that.

how so? 

[Keke They/he]

4 minutes ago, Timiny said:

So, if i understand your argument correctly, then you’re arguing that there would be chaos when there was an actual emergency, and doing drills that aren’t labeled as drills would help with that.

how so? 

Because they would take it more seriously. When in an emergency we go based off muscle memory. If it’s your habit to talk and whisper you’re gonna do that. If its your habit to sit quietly and wait then you’ll do that.

[#1 Taln Fan he/him]

Just a quick mod note: 
There hasn't been any of this so far, but just for future clarification, let's stay away from contentious topics like religious debates, politics, etc.. Thanks!

Oh and another note, I've moved the topic to the General Discussion subforum, as I think it's slightly better suited there 

My debatable hot take is that the first Skyward book is one of Sanderson's best 3 books he's written

[Mags she/they]

1 hour ago, Through The Living Glass said:

FIGHT ME

no I'm too busy

you're wrong though 

1 hour ago, Clinically insane said:

Because they would take it more seriously. When in an emergency we go based off muscle memory. If it’s your habit to talk and whisper you’re gonna do that. If its your habit to sit quietly and wait then you’ll do that.

I disagree, if that's alright, here's my thoughts:

Not telling people when there's actually a drill will ruin their trust. If they get super scared over an alarm, and then find out multiple times that it wasn't real, they'll start to assume none of them are real and the point of an alarm in the first place has disappeared. Because if the alarm goes off and it was drill every other time, then people will assume it's a drill a again and goof off even when there's real danger. Obviously, that's an extreme outcome, but I think you can understand where I'm coming from. Drills will happen, far more often then actual disasters, so after a while the alarms (without knowledge of whether it's a drill or not) will start to loose their severity in the minds of the people. It's basically a boy-who-cried-wolf scenario.

That, and I get really uncomfortable with the thought of not telling people things. I know it's not exactly lying, but what if someone does something drastic because they think it's a life or death situation, and it's not? Maybe it's because I'm pretty sensitive, but if I thought my school was genuinely in danger, only later to find it wasn't but I was purposefully told otherwise, I'd feel manipulated. I'd have gone through all that fear and stress for nothing. A safety system should be honest and open with it's methods of helping, not trying to trick people into getting a certain reaction.

I also think that it's easy to underestimate people. Of course we whisper and maybe mess around during a drill because we know it's not real. I was at one of my college classes once, and the alarms went off for someone trespassing in the building. It was not a drill. We went into our hiding place and it was dead silent. We were all terrified. I genuinely think that in the case of a real emergency, teenagers and adults at least have the self awareness to stay quiet and follow directions. Because real situations are actually scary, and fear means that people are eager to do what needs to be done to stay safe. (And everything turned out fine for us, by the way, they didn't really tell us what happened so I'm not sure if it was a misunderstanding or false alarm).

These arguments are mostly for adults and teenagers, though. I don't work with children a lot, and while I think they have the capacity to distinguish between how to act in a fake situation vs a real one, they can be harder to look after. I still dislike the idea of not telling them it's a drill though. Kids can get really frightened and worked up easily, it feels wrong to put them through something fake, but that's just my gut reaction.

I think the main point of drills (for older grades, once again) is so we learn what procedures for certain locations. Fire drills tell me what part of the parking lot I'm supposed to stand in, and that sort of thing. If the building was actually on fire, then yeah I'd know to get out of the building and stay calm and all that, but the drills at my school tell me what to do in this specific building, so that I can be found and accounted for.

Edit: girl really said she was too busy to defend peeta, but then wrote an essay on the other topic. I literally can't with myself today I'm so sorry I should be doing homework. Someone tell me lock in please ;-;

Edited March 5, 2025 by Magi

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

9 minutes ago, Magi said:

Edit: girl really said she was too busy to defend peeta, but then wrote an essay on the other topic. I literally can't with myself today I'm so sorry I should be doing homework. Someone tell me lock in please ;-;

lol

[Keke They/he]

1 hour ago, Magi said:

no I'm too busy

you're wrong though 

I disagree, if that's alright, here's my thoughts:

Not telling people when there's actually a drill will ruin their trust. If they get super scared over an alarm, and then find out multiple times that it wasn't real, they'll start to assume none of them are real and the point of an alarm in the first place has disappeared. Because if the alarm goes off and it was drill every other time, then people will assume it's a drill a again and goof off even when there's real danger. Obviously, that's an extreme outcome, but I think you can understand where I'm coming from. Drills will happen, far more often then actual disasters, so after a while the alarms (without knowledge of whether it's a drill or not) will start to loose their severity in the minds of the people. It's basically a boy-who-cried-wolf scenario.

That, and I get really uncomfortable with the thought of not telling people things. I know it's not exactly lying, but what if someone does something drastic because they think it's a life or death situation, and it's not? Maybe it's because I'm pretty sensitive, but if I thought my school was genuinely in danger, only later to find it wasn't but I was purposefully told otherwise, I'd feel manipulated. I'd have gone through all that fear and stress for nothing. A safety system should be honest and open with it's methods of helping, not trying to trick people into getting a certain reaction.

I also think that it's easy to underestimate people. Of course we whisper and maybe mess around during a drill because we know it's not real. I was at one of my college classes once, and the alarms went off for someone trespassing in the building. It was not a drill. We went into our hiding place and it was dead silent. We were all terrified. I genuinely think that in the case of a real emergency, teenagers and adults at least have the self awareness to stay quiet and follow directions. Because real situations are actually scary, and fear means that people are eager to do what needs to be done to stay safe. (And everything turned out fine for us, by the way, they didn't really tell us what happened so I'm not sure if it was a misunderstanding or false alarm).

These arguments are mostly for adults and teenagers, though. I don't work with children a lot, and while I think they have the capacity to distinguish between how to act in a fake situation vs a real one, they can be harder to look after. I still dislike the idea of not telling them it's a drill though. Kids can get really frightened and worked up easily, it feels wrong to put them through something fake, but that's just my gut reaction.

I think the main point of drills (for older grades, once again) is so we learn what procedures for certain locations. Fire drills tell me what part of the parking lot I'm supposed to stand in, and that sort of thing. If the building was actually on fire, then yeah I'd know to get out of the building and stay calm and all that, but the drills at my school tell me what to do in this specific building, so that I can be found and accounted for.

Edit: girl really said she was too busy to defend peeta, but then wrote an essay on the other topic. I literally can't with myself today I'm so sorry I should be doing homework. Someone tell me lock in please ;-;

...

Ok then

Fair point. 

I think it also depends on schools. 

At my school we have had a real thing. Like real real. And people would NOT shut up at ALL

[TwinStorm He/Him]

I will (and have) debate literally anything

shoot me a topic

if it extends we can go to pms

@anybody

[Keke They/he]

43 minutes ago, TwinStorm said:

I will (and have) debate literally anything

shoot me a topic

if it extends we can go to pms

@anybody

The prequels are better then the original trilogy in star wars

3 hours ago, #1 Taln Fan said:

Just a quick mod note: 
There hasn't been any of this so far, but just for future clarification, let's stay away from contentious topics like religious debates, politics, etc.. Thanks!

Oh and another note, I've moved the topic to the General Discussion subforum, as I think it's slightly better suited there 

My debatable hot take is that the first Skyward book is one of Sanderson's best 3 books he's written

Alright

Ok so that's debatable def but it is a good book

Non cosmere reckoners is realllyyyy good

[Tinwatcher I don’t mind]

5 hours ago, #1 Taln Fan said:

Just a quick mod note: 
There hasn't been any of this so far, but just for future clarification, let's stay away from contentious topics like religious debates, politics, etc.. Thanks!

Oh and another note, I've moved the topic to the General Discussion subforum, as I think it's slightly better suited there 

My debatable hot take is that the first Skyward book is one of Sanderson's best 3 books he's written

That’s a hot take?

something from Stormlight is probably also in the top three

[TwinStorm He/Him]

2 hours ago, Clinically insane said:

The prequels are better then the original trilogy in star wars

Alright

Ok so that's debatable def but it is a good book

Non cosmere reckoners is realllyyyy good

Well, they set up Darth Vader's redemption arc much better than og trilogy, but as movies they suffer from terrible writing

Alloy of Law is really good

[Keke They/he]

12 minutes ago, TwinStorm said:

Well, they set up Darth Vader's redemption arc much better than og trilogy, but as movies they suffer from terrible writing

Alloy of Law is really good

NO their writing is awesome and the story is intense and intriguing 

[TwinStorm He/Him]

1 minute ago, Clinically insane said:

NO their writing is awesome and the story is intense and intriguing 

is it?

the acting is at best clunky

the problem is, if we take the CW and add them to the prequels, then they are way better, because of all the added lore and rich history, but if we consider the two on their own, then the prequels fall flat, but not giving clones personality, poorly developing romances, and poorly handling villains