Nicrosoul Infinite powered Mistborn?

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

Lets start this out with the basic assumptions that nicrosilminds can store any types of invesititure (I know there is some controversy about that) and that somehow a Nicrosoul time traveled, or somehow got to this time period (Basically don't agrue about how the character got to this point)

A Nicrosoul (Nicrosil compounder) enters the well of ascension years before Vin gets there. Actually, right after the last time the lord ruler used it. The Well itself is empty. But that's not what their there for. They have a empty Nicrosilmind with them. The look to the lerasium bead. When burning the lerasium, instead of using it, they store it in their nicrosilmind. They then use their compounding abilities multiple times over. They do this over and over as they go through life. They never actually use the power in the nicrosilmind. They just keep on compounding it, and compounding it. Then, they compound it once more, and then only put 9 of the 10 units in the nicrosilmind. They then, essentially become a god. Their Compounding supercharged, they now are the most powerful mortal to ever exist. They, of course being smart still have some lerasium left. They will later preform tests to get other abilities. But for now, no one can contest them.

How real would this scenario be? Would this Nicrosoul (Lets call him Maniac) really gain these incredible powers? Isn't that a little to overpowered?

(Side note: Do you think there is some sort of feruchemical lerasium? Like a metal that makes you a feruchemist somehow? Maniac thinks so)

[Trusk'our he/him]

1 hour ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Lets start this out with the basic assumptions that nicrosilminds can store any types of invesititure (I know there is some controversy about that) and that somehow a Nicrosoul time traveled, or somehow got to this time period (Basically don't agrue about how the character got to this point)

A Nicrosoul (Nicrosil compounder) enters the well of ascension years before Vin gets there. Actually, right after the last time the lord ruler used it. The Well itself is empty. But that's not what their there for. They have a empty Nicrosilmind with them. The look to the lerasium bead. When burning the lerasium, instead of using it, they store it in their nicrosilmind. They then use their compounding abilities multiple times over. They do this over and over as they go through life. They never actually use the power in the nicrosilmind. They just keep on compounding it, and compounding it. Then, they compound it once more, and then only put 9 of the 10 units in the nicrosilmind. They then, essentially become a god. Their Compounding supercharged, they now are the most powerful mortal to ever exist. They, of course being smart still have some lerasium left. They will later preform tests to get other abilities. But for now, no one can contest them.

How real would this scenario be? Would this Nicrosoul (Lets call him Maniac) really gain these incredible powers? Isn't that a little to overpowered?

(Side note: Do you think there is some sort of feruchemical lerasium? Like a metal that makes you a feruchemist somehow? Maniac thinks so)

So, the proposition here is that Lerasium Allomancy- specifically the component that transforms you into an Allomancer- could be Feruchemically stored and Compounded into more Allomancy?

I guess it really depends on whether this function of Allomancy counts as an actual power or not. I mean, it's been hypothesized that regular nicrosil Compounding basically does this already, just in a temporary way.

I would also guess it isn't doable just for balancing issues. But, I also think if someone really knew what they were doing they could replicate Lerasium's abilities such as-

Cosmere spoilers:

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Through AonDor, Bondsmithing, Hemalurgy, or Forgery.

Or, maybe just Feruchemy with a lot of extra steps (using Unsealed Metalminds to change how you view yourself and then "healing" yourself into having powers you never actually had).

Edited January 17, 2025 by Trusk'our

[Quantus he/him]

Hmmm, interesting....

It can essentially be done with traditional Compounding of a store of "Mistborn Allomancy" of even a slowly collected copy of each metal from a bunch of medallions into separate metalminds. 

Here's the issue I see with the whole thing: Lerasium's effect is an instant and Permanent Change to your Spiritweb, it re-writes it, and the default version of that is to Connect you to Preservation via something that looks and acts awfully like a Luhel Bond.  That Connection then allows you to Draw and Tune Investiture from the Spiritual Realm to the Physical one for various effects, which is where metalminds & medallions usually come into play.  Im not exactly sure where in that Investiture circuit the Nicrosil Metalmind will interact, but Im not sure it would be able to store and stack that kind of permanent effect or if it would still be kind of a local battery that would run out of juice like the Bands.  

So instead, what if you Store the Mistborn's Luhel Bond Connection to Preservation directly in a Duralumin metalmind, then see about Compounding that?

Edited January 17, 2025 by Quantus

[Hexagonal He/Him]

From my understanding of how this compounding worked, wouldn't it make Maniac into preservation. There is a WoB that says a lerasium savant would become Preservation, and another that compounding could be used to become a feruchemical savant. I would think, if the premise that you could store and then compound the lerasium investiture(which I think is reasonable), that you could become preservation if you were able to compound enough.

[Quantus he/him]

On 1/17/2025 at 9:57 AM, Hexagonal said:

From my understanding of how this compounding worked, wouldn't it make Maniac into preservation. There is a WoB that says a lerasium savant would become Preservation, and another that compounding could be used to become a feruchemical savant. I would think, if the premise that you could store and then compound the lerasium investiture(which I think is reasonable), that you could become preservation if you were able to compound enough.

It would be Ascension, but not necessarily make him Preservation.  There are lesser versions of Ascension that dont let you actually take up the Shard itself.  The Lord Ruler Ascended for a while but Leras remained the actual holder of Preservation during that time, for example.  Also, per WOB Nicrosil Compounding would not be a path to taking up the Shard.  Lerasium might be a whole different ballgame being Preservation's actual Godmetal.  

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Douglas

What about a lerasium savant? Or would that require so much lerasium that the person attempting it would ascend to become a new Shardholder?

Brandon Sanderson

Basically, this is what Ascension is.

17th Shard Forum Q&A (Sept. 27, 2012)

 

 

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Questioner

If a nicrosil Ferring and Misting Twinborn burned a mountain of nicrosil, would he become Harmony?

Brandon Sanderson

A mountain?

Questioner

Yeah, like, he burned literally tons--

Brandon Sanderson

No, he would not. It wouldn't work that way.

Oathbringer Houston signing (Nov. 18, 2017)

 

 

 

 

Edited January 22, 2025 by Quantus
Awful spelling...