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Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but that one Death Rattle that people seem to think is talking about Dalinar and Kaladin could have an alternate meaning in context to the Kaladin becomes a Herald theory.

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"He must pick it up, the fallen title! The tower, the crown, and the spear! "

Jezrien, Herald of the Windrunners, was killed by Moash, as well as forsaking the Oathpact, giving a double meaning to the fallen title. The crown would refer to his title as king and the spear is obviously Kaladin. Not sure about the Tower though.

Or.... I could just be trying to reinterpret an already solved Death Rattle. Thoughts?

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The tower and the crown—it's obviously glyphs of House Kholin, so after reading WaT chpt. 6, where Dalinar tells him that he can form his own house, it came to the theory that Kaladin could take glyphs of Kholin and add to it a spear as his own symbol. So in my opinion, the second part of Rattle's just appeal to Kal. But what exactly is the title? It's RAFO.

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10 hours ago, TwinStorm said:

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but that one Death Rattle that people seem to think is talking about Dalinar and Kaladin could have an alternate meaning in context to the Kaladin becomes a Herald theory.

for context:

Jezrien, Herald of the Windrunners, was killed by Moash, as well as forsaking the Oathpact, giving a double meaning to the fallen title. The crown would refer to his title as king and the spear is obviously Kaladin. Not sure about the Tower though.

Or.... I could just be trying to reinterpret an already solved Death Rattle. Thoughts?

I think it's most likely about Kaladin becoming Dalinar's successor as the king of Urithiru - he already asked Kaladin about it in earlier WoT chapters The tower and the crown are glyphs forming Dalinar's crest, Kaladin might adapt it to himself by adding a spear, when he becomes the king of Urithiru (the fallen title) after whatever happens to Dalinar. WoT ch 5:

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Dalinar didn’t lean against the stone frame to relax as another might have. He clasped his hands behind him, his spine straight. Wearing a Kholin blue uniform with his glyphs on the back: the tower and the crown.
[...]
“Good,” Dalinar said to the two of them. “I do have… one other thing, Kaladin. Do you still have that cloak I gave you when you first joined my army?”
“I do,” he said. “I keep it as a mark of pride, sir, though I don’t often wear it. Doesn’t match the uniform, and… well, it has your house glyphs on the back. Emblazoned to indicate a member of the royal family.”
“I can understand that,” Dalinar said. “House Stormblessed is a new lighteyed house, sure to begin its own grand traditions. It’s not normally fitting that you would wear another house’s glyphs.”
“Except?” Kaladin asked.
[...]
“My sons,” Dalinar said softly, “have both declined to be named as my heirs to any throne I might claim.”
“I know, sir,” Kaladin said. “That’s why Jasnah was chosen as queen.”
[...]
“A child can, and must, inherit to preserve the throne,” Dalinar said. “That settles Alethkar, which is separate from Urithiru and from the Knights Radiant. So this kingdom has no heir to take over should something happen to me and Navani.”
Dalinar turned, holding the sheet of paper, and looked to Kaladin. Syl gasped. Pale yellow shockspren burst around Kaladin, and he felt his insides crumbling. “Sir,” he said, going stiff. “Please, no. I’m broken.”
“Life breaks us,” Dalinar said. “Then we fill the cracks with something stronger.”
“Renarin. He’s Radiant.”
“He can see glimpses of the future, and what he’s seen makes him reject this charge. I support him in this. Soldier, Renarin is bonded to a corrupted spren, and we as yet don’t know the effects that might have. Adolin flat-out refuses. I… hope to be able to resolve our problems, as I worry I am the reason he turned down the throne of Alethkar. But even if we did, Urithiru should have a Radiant at its head.” Dalinar held out the sheet to Kaladin. “I will not force this upon you, Kaladin. But I will ask, because I must. Will you be our heir?

 

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