cobaltking360 Posted October 6, 2024 Posted October 6, 2024 (edited) MINOR SPOILERS just a quickish question, i just watched a vid on fabrials, and wanted to know how silver would effect rosharan fabrials if there was a silver cage? Edited October 6, 2024 by cobaltking360 1
+Lewis Nethur He/Him Posted October 6, 2024 Posted October 6, 2024 27 minutes ago, cobaltking360 said: MINOR SPOILERS just a quickish question, i just watched a vid on fabrials, and wanted to know how silver would effect rosharan fabrials if there was a silver cage? Oooohhhh...this is a dangerous question because we have very little good information to build on for this specific subject. Thus far, silver seems to just totally annihilate (destroy itself and its target) cognitively-grounded forms of Investiture which have been corrupted from their original Intent, buuuuuuuut...maybe that's just a unique property of shades...? The short answer is, we don't completely know yet in a documentation sort of way. From what I've seen, it's most likely system-specific to some degree. For example, I don't expect that bendalloy function as an acceleration catalyst in all Investiture systems; so too might silver have esoteric or world-specific applications. Best guess? It would torture whatever spren was trapped in said cage until it died or twisted itself inside out and cause the machine to explode. But it might do literally anything else too, so...buyer beware. 1
Treamayne Posted October 6, 2024 Posted October 6, 2024 31 minutes ago, cobaltking360 said: MINOR SPOILERS just a quickish question, i just watched a vid on fabrials, and wanted to know how silver would effect rosharan fabrials if there was a silver cage? BLUF: We do not yet know. There are probably some fan theories, but the only Fabrial we have seen (confirmed) with silver was an alloy that does not impact the fabrial's function: Spoiler Navani's Notebook - RoW Interior Art: Quote The ruby is housed in a metal other than Raysium; silver, maybe? Undertext: I can confirm: the metal is not Raysium but a silver- nickel alloy and does not affect the dagger's function. The only known (so far) interactions for Silver on Roshar are on the Coppermind - Extract and WoBs: Spoiler Quote Roshar[edit] On Roshar, silver could potentially be used to permanently kill spren, unlike aluminum.[34][10] A silver-nickel alloy houses the polestone on the pommel of at least one Raysium dagger used by the Fused, but the metal does not affect the dagger's function.[35] Quote Ace Heat Would it be possible to use an aluminum spike to permanently kill a spren? Brandon Sanderson No, that's not gonna work. Silver, on the other hand, there's some possibility. YouTube Spoiler Stream 4 (June 16, 2022) Quote Peter Ahlstrom Silver is not Allomantically inert the way aluminum is. In that annotation, Brandon just meant that silver didn't do anything if you swallowed it and tried to burn it. It can be Pushed and Pulled. Years after Brandon wrote that annotation, what he means by "Allomantically inert" has changed. Miscellaneous 2012 (March 14, 2012) Quote Questioner Does silver break Connection or bonds? If silver does have this effect, does it get used in the creation of unkeyed metalminds? Brandon Sanderson These are good questions. Silver, as I have it right now, is not capable of that. What silver's doing is is disrupting. It's more like interference. You know how, in White Sand, people can have these columns of sand. If you swiped silver through that, they would fall; but then they would be able to do it again. It's this little nullification for a short time. It's very dangerous to things like shades, and stuff like that. It's more disruptive. If you hit a spren with this, it would be like hitting them with a Shardblade. They're gonna come back together. They're not dead; they're gonna reform eventually, and probably won't take too long. So it's not severing Connection; you're gonna need anti-Investiture to do really destructive stuff. But you can disrupt with some silver. It's specifically bad for Shades for reasons maybe I'll get into someday. Dragonsteel 2023 (Nov. 21, 2023) Quote Pagerunner Are there ten metals (and their respective alloys) that can be used in fabrials? The eight allomantic pure metals, silver, and then one more? Brandon Sanderson There are more than 10. Dragonsteel Mini-Con 2021 (Nov. 22, 2021) So, using an actual Silver Cage would likely have a deletrious effect (but may be useful for a saboteur). 5
Light In the Darkness Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 We have gained some more info on Silver from Tress, and I think from the Lost Metal. It seems to be related to the more…universal investitures, things that existed before Adonalsium, including Aethers. Shades seem to have a similar relation. But as such, it definitely seems to interact inconsistently with current magic systems. It would likely be very painful to the spren in the Fabrial, and might reduce their potency? By nullifying some of their essence? I guess we’ll eventually see. With the WoB on the metals that work in fabrials, though, it seems likely that all 16 allomantic alloys have an influence on them (we saw steel and iron each in the rain-gatherers in WoR iirc) along with steel and the God Metals and their alloys. Interesting thoughts. Tress is supporting evidence for that by the way; no details to avoid spoilers.
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