Feruchemical Iron/Pewter Synergy

[Trusk'our he/him]

I just realized, Wax finds it a little easier to move around and support his own weight when Storing via iron, right?

Since you can realistically only Store a certain amount of strength via Pewtermind at any give time (WoB), Storing weight simultaneously would mean you can Store more of your strength at any given time. 

Both Hemalurgists of the right type and Full Feruchemists could make good use of this synergy to get more strength for later.

Edited March 15, 2024 by Trusk'our

[The Stormfather He/Him]

I guess, but it probably wouldn't help too much. You'd still be so weak and it wouldn't increase the speed of storing by that much, right?

[Trusk'our he/him]

35 minutes ago, The Stormfather said:

I guess, but it probably wouldn't help too much. You'd still be so weak and it wouldn't increase the speed of storing by that much, right?

I mean, if Sazed can only Store 20% of his strength away at any given time (as given in the WoB), then being able to Store even 10% more would be a decent bonus.

Though, while I imagine this to be a nice perk, it's not a massive game changer. Just another little synergy I thought was neat and worth considering.

[The Stormfather He/Him]

Yes, it would be neat. Maybe if you were tapping iron, since that improves your body strength, that would make the 20% a lot more.

[Quantus he/him]

24 minutes ago, Trusk'our said:

I mean, if Sazed can only Store 20% of his strength away at any given time (as given in the WoB), then being able to Store even 10% more would be a decent bonus.

Though, while I imagine this to be a nice perk, it's not a massive game changer. Just another little synergy I thought was neat and worth considering.

Flip it: Tapping Pewterminds adds significant physical Bulk to the feruchemist.  I suspect the Bulk does not scale 1:1 with the Strength increase, but While you are tapping Strength you should be able to store more than normal amounts of Weight, and doing so will also make it easier to maneuver with all that added bulk during your Hulk session.  

[Trusk'our he/him]

1 hour ago, The Stormfather said:

Yes, it would be neat. Maybe if you were tapping iron, since that improves your body strength, that would make the 20% a lot more.

I hadn't thought of that.

I wonder if the strength Stored from Tapped weight would act differently, perhaps increasing your body’s weight for weight strength? After all, you can Store wakefulness from caffeine in a Bronzemind (WoB), so if F-iron's strength is Storable in a Pewtermind it shouldn't be altered.

Maybe it would make it easier to maneuver with more Tapped weight, since the added strength only affects your body’s ability to maneuver and doesn't normally keep up 1-1 with the added weight.

1 hour ago, Quantus said:

Flip it: Tapping Pewterminds adds significant physical Bulk to the feruchemist.  I suspect the Bulk does not scale 1:1 with the Strength increase, but While you are tapping Strength you should be able to store more than normal amounts of Weight, and doing so will also make it easier to maneuver with all that added bulk during your Hulk session.  

Oooo, more advantage.

Seems like there are more synergies between these two powers than I originally thought. 

[Quantus he/him]

2 minutes ago, Trusk'our said:

I hadn't thought of that.

I wonder if the strength Stored from Tapped weight would act differently, perhaps increasing your body’s weight for weight strength? After all, you can Store wakefulness from caffeine in a Bronzemind (WoB), so if F-iron's strength is Storable in a Pewtermind it shouldn't be altered.

Maybe it would make it easier to maneuver with more Tapped weight, since the added strength only affects your body’s ability to maneuver and doesn't normally keep up 1-1 with the added weight.

Oooo, more advantage.

Seems like there are more synergies between these two powers than I originally thought. 

Ideally you would bulk up then reduce your weight so you can move far more than your volume would indicate, but you flash Tap all that weight just before the moment of impact to increase the force and/or follow-through when you are punching folks.

[Trusk'our he/him]

14 minutes ago, Quantus said:

Ideally you would bulk up then reduce your weight so you can move far more than your volume would indicate, but you flash Tap all that weight just before the moment of impact to increase the force and/or follow-through when you are punching folks.

Wouldn't your fist slow down when Tapping weight due to the conservation of momentum? I could see being lighter on your feet being useful for hulking-up, and Tapping weight right before you begin to rush, toss a punch (maybe. Feruchemical weight is wonky), or jump (and then release the Tapping to convert mass to momentum).

The other idea was Storing some of the added "strength" gained when Tapping weight, which could then potentially be Tapped when Tapping more weight to increase the percentage of strength to weight ratio. Basically, it would just be a fancy way of making yourself more mobile while Tapping lots of weight. A bit convoluted, but it could potential prove to be a useful ability.

[Quantus he/him]

5 hours ago, Trusk'our said:

Wouldn't your fist slow down when Tapping weight due to the conservation of momentum? I could see being lighter on your feet being useful for hulking-up, and Tapping weight right before you begin to rush, toss a punch (maybe. Feruchemical weight is wonky), or jump (and then release the Tapping to convert mass to momentum).

The conservation slowdown is mostly an issue midair, but should be less of a concern when the hulk in question is grounded and can follow through with the full weight and strength in a proper boxer slam.