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[Shardwatcher01 he/him]

Ohhhhhh yea so kinda like a rythmatist kinda rune drawins system? Interesting...

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

Just now, Shardwatcher01 said:

Ohhhhhh yea so kinda like a rythmatist kinda rune drawins system? Interesting...

Yeah, Rithmatist or elantris-esque, in that it uses symbols, yeah.

[Shardwatcher01 he/him]

1 minute ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

Yeah, Rithmatist or elantris-esque, in that it uses symbols, yeah.

Could you explain the plot to me? you said you had something for that?

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Shardwatcher01 said:

Could you explain the plot to me? you said you had something for that?

Hm.

Gimme a sec, I thought this up in the summer so I'm digging it up from deep memory, I put some of it up there, the simplest baseline (dictator and chosen one whatnot)

I'll try and remember more, give me a few minutes.

[Shardwatcher01 he/him]

Also I really like the world and monsters. You're magic system is interesting but honestly I was thinking of having a system that was a bit more physical? Not Allowmancy but like just being able to like fly thru the air or something like that. Sorry if that doesnt make sense im doing like 4 things at once haha.

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

1 minute ago, Shardwatcher01 said:

Also I really like the world and monsters. You're magic system is interesting but honestly I was thinking of having a system that was a bit more physical? Not Allowmancy but like just being able to like fly thru the air or something like that. Sorry if that doesnt make sense im doing like 4 things at once haha.

That does make sense. I made that magic system because I really like those kinds of magic systems. One thing I did think about was that people who could use the magic well could kinda fly by manipulating gravity and stuff, but you can do whatever you want (you don't even have to use any of this). One thing about the magic was that I used it to explain the Spiners (my friend nicknamed them that, the red-spiny-demons), but really the magic doesn't have to be like that.

[Shardwatcher01 he/him]

1 minute ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

That does make sense. I made that magic system because I really like those kinds of magic systems. One thing I did think about was that people who could use the magic well could kinda fly by manipulating gravity and stuff, but you can do whatever you want (you don't even have to use any of this). One thing about the magic was that I used it to explain the Spiners (my friend nicknamed them that, the red-spiny-demons), but really the magic doesn't have to be like that.

Yea I like the demons and idean but I'm just thinking of a more athlete system more than a scholar system (ask me if you dont know what those are) because if youre fighting massive beasts I think it would just be best to have a fighting system? idk sry im just half thinking and writing what comes to mind.

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

1 minute ago, Shardwatcher01 said:

Yea I like the demons and idean but I'm just thinking of a more athlete system more than a scholar system (ask me if you dont know what those are) because if youre fighting massive beasts I think it would just be best to have a fighting system? idk sry im just half thinking and writing what comes to mind.

I thought of the demons as things people kinda consider unbeatable, they're kinda immortal, mystical things.

Yeah, it is more of a scholar system, sorry 'bout that. I kinda imagined that everyone had things prepared way beforehand, so they had an exact plan of attack, and didn't have to carve or write symbols during a fight. It made it a bit less boring. And made it WAY more fighty.

I mean, there could totally be a different magic system, or even multiple separate ones. Do you want to use a different one? (Oh, what I'm I saying. Of course you do.) 

Gimme 15 minutes to ponder.

Or just like 10.

Or 5.

Just some ponder-y time.

[Shardwatcher01 he/him]

1 minute ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

I thought of the demons as things people kinda consider unbeatable, they're kinda immortal, mystical things.

Yeah, it is more of a scholar system, sorry 'bout that. I kinda imagined that everyone had things prepared way beforehand, so they had an exact plan of attack, and didn't have to carve or write symbols during a fight. It made it a bit less boring. And made it WAY more fighty.

I mean, there could totally be a different magic system, or even multiple separate ones. Do you want to use a different one? (Oh, what I'm I saying. Of course you do.) 

Gimme 15 minutes to ponder.

Or just like 10.

Or 5.

Just some ponder-y time.

Now that I'm thinking about it, like 2 or mayyybe even 3 magic systems in one world would be sweet.

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Shardwatcher01 said:

Now that I'm thinking about it, like 2 or mayyybe even 3 magic systems in one world would be sweet.

Do you want 2 or 3 athlete systems?

Or a whole hodgepodge of magic

Do you want the magics related like in mistborn?

Or completely separate? 

Hard or Soft?

Ones with lots of abilities like stormlight or just one like Warbreaker?

[Shardwatcher01 he/him]

1 minute ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

Do you want 2 or 3 athlete systems?

Or a whole hodgepodge of magic

Do you want the magics related like in mistborn?

Or completely separate? 

Hard or Soft?

Ones with lots of abilities like stormlight or just one like Warbreaker?

2-3 just systems like maybe 1 and 1 athlete and scholar.

not really like mistborn, well maybe like how they have one athletic and one scholar.

probably more on the hard side, like 80-20

in between stormlight like maybe 6 "orders" (not like the knights but just 6 types of one system that can do different things.

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

24 minutes ago, Shardwatcher01 said:

2-3 just systems like maybe 1 and 1 athlete and scholar.

not really like mistborn, well maybe like how they have one athletic and one scholar.

probably more on the hard side, like 80-20

in between stormlight like maybe 6 "orders" (not like the knights but just 6 types of one system that can do different things.

Egh.

Tall order.

I'll be back from the kitchen as soon as possible (could be anywhere from an hour to a week. Sorry).

[TheSurvivorofDeath]

I have a system that I made up off the top of my head that I have nowhere to put so you can have it if you like the premise. Basically there’s coins, either basic or rare, five base metals for each class. Alloy coins can be made. So the way the magic works is you place the coin under your tongue, and it will grant you the associated ability for a time. The time period depends on the metal of the coin and the power it gives you. Alloys have to be made of the base metals and will grant a slightly diminished form of both abilities for a time period roughly in the middle of the two.

This is how I have it set up.

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Obviously you can change the abilities if you want and if you’re looking for a sort of stigma towards magic you could have the only way to mint the coins be through various numbers of souls, depending on the coin. I’m not sure if this is what you’re looking for I just find it interesting.

[Shardwatcher01 he/him]

6 hours ago, TheSurvivorofDeath said:

I have a system that I made up off the top of my head that I have nowhere to put so you can have it if you like the premise. Basically there’s coins, either basic or rare, five base metals for each class. Alloy coins can be made. So the way the magic works is you place the coin under your tongue, and it will grant you the associated ability for a time. The time period depends on the metal of the coin and the power it gives you. Alloys have to be made of the base metals and will grant a slightly diminished form of both abilities for a time period roughly in the middle of the two.

This is how I have it set up.

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Obviously you can change the abilities if you want and if you’re looking for a sort of stigma towards magic you could have the only way to mint the coins be through various numbers of souls, depending on the coin. I’m not sure if this is what you’re looking for I just find it interesting.

thanks no yea that’s interesting. i’ll definitely look through that and maybe tweak it a little but yea thanks.

[Mags she/they]

On 1/3/2024 at 7:41 PM, Shardwatcher01 said:

that’s cool. anything more on the magic system? I kinda want the world to rely on it but hate it. i’m sorry that’s just an idea i came up with it’s totally random. Like they’re protected by it or smth but hate it for some reason idek im just laying my thoughts down.

Hi! I'd also be willing to throw out ideas if you want,

as for things already discussed:

22 hours ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

Well, you'd essentially have to make everything with wood and stone, making it really difficult. Like a mesa verde or Petra, or even just a whole lot of stone/wood buildings. You'd have to use magic and be creative.

Okay, magic. The idea is that symbols and elements have magic. It all informs transformation. You draw two symbols on an object (kinda interlocking/interlapping/connected in some way). The activation symbol and the transformation symbol. The activation symbol tells a few things: how it's activated and what it affects (whether what has the symbol on it changes, or what it hits). The transformation simply says what it'll transform into/what it does (ex. it explodes, it turns something into something else, it sticks to whatever it touches, or, my favorite, it pushes something away from itself). Say I draw the symbol for Stone as my activation symbol (also saying it'll transform the item it's carved into), and then connect it to the symbol of water as my transformation symbol. When the activation symbol comes in contact with stone, the symbol will activate, and turn whatever it was carved into to water. 

ANYONE can use this magic (I think), so long as they know the symbols. People who fight with it draw the symbols on things like staffs and coins. ONE NOTE: You should not attempt to use the symbol for "life" or "people" (because it does bad stuff). My idea was that something went wrong with someone's symbols, and in the process that made the spiners (underground demons), but no one knows that.

Make sense?

There's an anime called Fullmetal Alchemist that manages to do a rune/drawing based system, but keeps the magic and fighting pretty physical. Through special circumstances some of the characters gain the ability to do magic without drawing the runes, it's sort of like an enlightenment thing. They had to pay a pretty terrible price for the ability though, but I think that would play into the darker/ sacrificial side of things that you've been interested in. It's a good example of a direction you might want to go in. (fma also plays into the 'don't mess with people or life with runs' idea that elan brought up too, so It seemed extra relevant).

There's a guy on youtube who's channel is called Monster Garden, and it's basically about him world building and developing his specific world. His magic system is a lot like the parasitic/ people use it but hate it ideas, so that could also be a source of inspiration if you want. 

I've got to go for now, but I'll to try to keep thinking on it.

[Shardwatcher01 he/him]

59 minutes ago, justice magician said:

Hi! I'd also be willing to throw out ideas if you want,

as for things already discussed:

There's an anime called Fullmetal Alchemist that manages to do a rune/drawing based system, but keeps the magic and fighting pretty physical. Through special circumstances some of the characters gain the ability to do magic without drawing the runes, it's sort of like an enlightenment thing. They had to pay a pretty terrible price for the ability though, but I think that would play into the darker/ sacrificial side of things that you've been interested in. It's a good example of a direction you might want to go in. (fma also plays into the 'don't mess with people or life with runs' idea that elan brought up too, so It seemed extra relevant).

There's a guy on youtube who's channel is called Monster Garden, and it's basically about him world building and developing his specific world. His magic system is a lot like the parasitic/ people use it but hate it ideas, so that could also be a source of inspiration if you want. 

I've got to go for now, but I'll to try to keep thinking on it.

thanks man that’s great! i’ll definitely check that out.

[Shardwatcher01 he/him]

2 hours ago, justice magician said:

Hi! I'd also be willing to throw out ideas if you want,

as for things already discussed:

There's an anime called Fullmetal Alchemist that manages to do a rune/drawing based system, but keeps the magic and fighting pretty physical. Through special circumstances some of the characters gain the ability to do magic without drawing the runes, it's sort of like an enlightenment thing. They had to pay a pretty terrible price for the ability though, but I think that would play into the darker/ sacrificial side of things that you've been interested in. It's a good example of a direction you might want to go in. (fma also plays into the 'don't mess with people or life with runs' idea that elan brought up too, so It seemed extra relevant).

There's a guy on youtube who's channel is called Monster Garden, and it's basically about him world building and developing his specific world. His magic system is a lot like the parasitic/ people use it but hate it ideas, so that could also be a source of inspiration if you want. 

I've got to go for now, but I'll to try to keep thinking on it.

Also sorry I was just reading the first post of yours buy yeah if you have any ideas definitly throw them out at me!