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Nah nah that’s actually clutch

I’m ignoring the three village deaths for now because I don’t want to talk about it but Dingo bailed us out and this reflects quite badly on Vulture

I want to sus Ostrich for overstating their anti Heron push but I feel like that’s just a remnant of the player behind the anon.

Ostrich, can you explain why you e read Ig? I’ve found their slot to be quite towny throughout the game

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You messed up, huh. 

Idek anymore! I'm still annoyed everyone waited until the last second to decide on an exe, but I can't now so huzzah! 

Note for future reread, hypothesis is either e!Vulture defense or elims trying to avoid what they knew was a bad wagon by splintering! 

Someone tell us what Dingo posted and if that amounts to anything! 

 

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5 minutes ago, Amethyst Scorpion said:

Nah nah that’s actually clutch

I’m ignoring the three village deaths for now because I don’t want to talk about it but Dingo bailed us out and this reflects quite badly on Vulture

I want to sus Ostrich for overstating their anti Heron push but I feel like that’s just a remnant of the player behind the anon.

Ostrich, can you explain why you e read Ig? I’ve found their slot to be quite towny throughout the game

I was in thread for literal hours pushing against the Heron exe and constantly looking for consensus alternatives I was comfortable with, and I signaled my v!read of Heron near the start of the day before Heron became stubbornly kept wagon. Don’t understand how I’m overstating it, but will concede that “a remnant of the player behind the anon” is a likely factor. Aman do be Amaning.

Mostly that Iguana voted everyone but Vulture + if Iguana didn’t vote Heron last minute, Vulture would be dead

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In fact, Iguana posted a ton last turn and avoided Vulture talk nearly the entire time. The few posts they did talk about Vulture, it was to push against my Vulture push. Regardless of Vulture’s alignment, it reads as a rand!e position to me

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Yeah you got Heron killed and voted literally every wagon other than the slot that survived a non-elim kill and was saved by a Soother. That's my case. Anything more is irrelevant fluff

Sorry if the tone there feels aggressive. Not my intention. I'm just firm on my stance here. There is little else but me Seeking you myself that could dissuade me at this juncture

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...that's a lot of corpses.

If Dingo hasn't posted since D1, then it's possible the Spiked didn't get any use out of Dingo's seeking. Can't complain too much about that.

May as well look at the D1 votes if we've got flips from people who at least posted D1:

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Chartreuse Penguin (3): Azure Mouse, Emerald Falcon, Onyx Flamingo
Ivory Dragonfly (3): Amber Vulture, Chartreuse Penguin, Fuchsia Ostrich
Charcoal Hyena (2): Amethyst Scorpion, Oxblood Beagle
Coral Swan (2): Sage Kangaroo, Salmon Meerkat
Onyx Flamingo (2): Magenta Albatross, Pearl Chameleon
Saffron Iguana (2): Cream Tuatara, Melon Dingo
Amethyst Scorpion (1): Sapphire Elephant
Azure Mouse (1): Opal Lion
Cream Tuatara (1): Saffron Iguana
Melon Dingo (1): Charcoal Hyena
Oxblood Beagle (1): Mint Heron
Salmon Meerkat (0): Coral Swan
Sapphire Elephant (1): Ivory Dragonfly

Which wasn't as useful as I was expecting it could have been... Weasel and Rhino didn't vote even though they posted it turns out.

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Chartreuse Penguin (3): Azure Mouse, Emerald Falcon, Onyx Flamingo
Ivory Dragonfly (3): Amber Vulture, Chartreuse Penguin, Fuchsia Ostrich
Charcoal Hyena (2): Amethyst Scorpion, Oxblood Beagle
Coral Swan (2): Sage Kangaroo, Salmon Meerkat
Onyx Flamingo (2): Magenta Albatross, Pearl Chameleon
Saffron Iguana (2): Cream Tuatara, Melon Dingo
Amethyst Scorpion (1): Sapphire Elephant
Azure Mouse (1): Opal Lion
Cream Tuatara (1): Saffron Iguana
Melon Dingo (1): Charcoal Hyena
Oxblood Beagle (1): Mint Heron
Salmon Meerkat (0): Coral Swan
Sapphire Elephant (1): Ivory Dragonfly

Not Voting: Plum Rhinoceros, Indigo Weasel, Someone else Idr, maybe another

 

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Chartreuse Penguin (3): Azure Mouse, Emerald Falcon, Onyx Flamingo
Ivory Dragonfly (3): Amber Vulture??, Chartreuse Penguin, Fuchsia Ostrich
Charcoal Hyena (2): Amethyst Scorpion, Oxblood Beagle
Coral Swan (2): Sage Kangaroo, Salmon Meerkat
Onyx Flamingo (2): Magenta Albatross, Pearl Chameleon
Saffron Iguana (2): Cream Tuatara, Melon Dingo
Amethyst Scorpion (1): Sapphire Elephant
Azure Mouse (1): Opal Lion
Cream Tuatara (1): Saffron Iguana
Melon Dingo (1): Charcoal Hyena
Oxblood Beagle (1): Mint Heron
Salmon Meerkat (0): Coral Swan
Sapphire Elephant (1): Ivory Dragonfly

Not Voting: Plum Rhinoceros, Indigo Weasel, Zebra?, Someone else i think too

I guess my new PoE is down to

Penguin, Scorp, Beagle, Elephant, Albatross, Zebra.

I'm kinda def missing people here so uh someone lemme know ok

Outer is Swan and Potentially Iguana, though I like iguana so far ish.

Def could be wrong on Ostrich and Kangaroo but I can be wrong on everyone so I'm just gonna like stick with it til something happens now. Gonna review the last days in a min but yeah

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I do think there's at least one in [Beagle, Scorp, Penguin], and that Beagle is the least likely since imo they are not paired with Scorp.
[Alb, Elephant, Zebra] is another grouping, and I need to look more into them specifically.

Elephant and Meerkat are both kinda blind spots for me, regardless of my current V read of Meerkat. It's almost gotten time to drop my read on Meerkat, but not to the point where I want to kill them tomorrow.

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CURRENT THOUGHTS(ish)
they are a bit disorganized so bear with me through this. All is OTH so if I missed someone it won't be useful to ask me about them since I probably won't have an opinion.

Vulture
I think that vulture is V for now but I'm not sure how to read them completely.
The fixation on Mint D2 could have well been a plan to try and avoid making actual discussion over things, but it's such a bizzare take.
I do think that though technically NAI, their commitment to staying in RP despite pressure is a good look.

If Penguin is a villager they are more likely an Elim based on wagons, and I do think they're just likely a difference check. So atp it's which person I find to be more villagery, which....uh....moving on...

Onyx
I think Onyx is likely a villager simply because of their vote D1, but I don't remember much of what they've said.
The penguin wagon was last minute and regardless of Penguin's alignment they are likely v for jumping on it when it wasn't neccessary to last minute wagon a villager, and even less incentive to wagon a teammate.

Swan
Swan is a much lighter village read, because of the read they made on Meerkat mostly (and night voting, but haha....).
This could be countered though regardless of Meerkat's alignment...but yeah gonna just. Village for now.

Fuchsia
This read is mostly from their defence of Mint, which is pretty much completely pointless to push as an Elim. They tried to start/join several counters and it's unneccesary for an Elim to try that.

Beagle
They're a big question for me, since I'm not so sure how I like their reaction to the whole Pearl thing from yesterday.
Besides that I have no real opinions on them despite reading through their posts. I know several people village read them and I'd love to see cited reasoning on why since I'm having trouble getting anything solid there.

Kangaroo
They haven't had many posts, but I am a fan of their EoD voting (which i find funny that i think someone mentioned they didn't like that all too much.). Not really who they voted, that doesn't matter much to me. They didn't really seem to know where to go and didn't come into thread really pushing anything.
Gonna go back through votes in a little to make sure I'm not missing something on that though.

Iguana
This is one of my lower village reads, but I'm holding it for now.
The fact that Dingo did vote Iguana on D1 is a point in Iguana's favor, since bringing iguana up to 2 when the highest votes at the time were emerald and Elephant at 3. It puts Iguana in contention a little. The only reason I won't trust this for long is because without other posts you really can't be sure of how Dingo was playing, and if they were the type of person to let TMI overcome them.
I mention this specifically because I referenced a low posting elim slot usually showing more TMI than other Elims, so I'm kinda contradicting that by making this read.
I also think that Iguana's EoD1 voting was a good look, but again that could be countered by the fact that they seem to want to not be on any leading/flipped wagon in the first two cycles.

If Iguana does happen to be an Elim imo its even less likely that Amber is an Elim, since Iguana voted on Mint. (as I'm writing this Ostrich posted about Iguana pushback on Amber, going to look into that after I finish getting thoughts out. because I WILL forget all of this if I tab out for even a moment.)

Scorp
I've talked about my feelings about Scorp a little but not much, and I don't really have that much thoughts about them. They rest in a similar space as beagle to me- but there are still points in their posts that feel like a form of TMI.

they are one of my Elim leans, though I can't elaborate much on that right now. (not due to like, lack of time, just due to, lack of brain)

Mauve
My read on them is, well, still purely off of their mouse vote. I don't see an Elim in their situation doing that. Unfortunately there is nothing else to go off of.

If they are an Elim, I do think that it probably affects what Iguana's alignment is but uh, can't think on that now.

Penguin
I really should have more to say on them right now based on the fact that I've been pushing them (vaguely). But I don't off the top of my head. I think I'm running out of space in here (my head) so I'm gonna have to go back through that.

I do think that last cycle their bits with pearl were strange but again, I need to reread that.

I know people are village reading them as like Scorp and Beagle so I'd appreciate insight from anyone who is.

EDIT:

Love to see that me and Ostrich have completely opposite reads but like as long as ostrich isn't evil this is good!!!

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3 minutes ago, Opal Lion said:

they are one of my Elim leans, though I can't elaborate much on that right now. (not due to like, lack of time, just due to, lack of brain)

Looking forward to if you get to that. I’ve played badly but I am objectively a bad villager so that’s just normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The biggest point I have in my own favor is that I was Mouse’s strongest village read which I have never managed as elim for more than half a turn but I get how that doesn’t matter coming from me.

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I guess my thing here is at a certain point, the content of posts is less important to me than the deliberate actions taken. Most specifically, votes.

I at least spent 6 hours trying to get people to vote Vulture. Every time, either Heron, or Cham, or an entirely new candidate would receive votes, while Vulture was only really met w/ resistance until the very end. Some cases (like Kangaroo or Albatross) would overtake the Vulture wagon I created within literal minutes of the options being presented. That felt & continues to feel very off to me, even if I can recognize why some villagers might be resistant to the exe. Regardless, what it tells me is that the elims didn't want to jump on the Vulture wagon to muddy the waters, which leaves me asking why they had no interest in splitting the wagons further (if V!Heron, V!Cham, V!Vulture). The most logical conclusion is e!Vulture

And no one was more blatant about this than Iguana with their D3 voting record, so rn I'd rather pursue that lead than waste my time reiterating my same Vulture sus

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Rereading EoD, Saffron/Kangaroo not E/E.

Not only that but I find myself agreeing a little with Iguana's negative read of Kangaroo based on how they voted two people and then proceeded to need information to vote Mint. Not really completely sure how to read that in all honesty, but also yeah.

And esp with that last post, not sure at all how to read Cham anymore. I don't want to try.

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[P] Salmon Meerkat Votes Emerald Falcon ^ 1
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[P] Azure Mouse Votes Salmon Meerkat ^ 1
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[P] Chartreuse Penguin Votes Indigo Weasel ^ 1
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[P] Azure Mouse Votes Indigo Weasel ^ 2
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[P] Oxblood Beagle Unvotes Plum Rhinoceros - 0
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[P] Saffron Iguana Unvotes Pearl Chameleon - 0
[P] Saffron Iguana Votes Emerald Falcon ^ 4
[P] Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Ivory Dragonfly - 0
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[P] Ivory Dragonfly Votes Sapphire Elephant   4
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[P] Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Charcoal Hyena   0
[P] Amethyst Scorpion Votes Saffron Iguana   1
[P] Magenta Alabatross Unvotes Emerald Falcon   2
[P] Coral Swan Votes Salmon Meerkat   3
[P] Onyx Flamingo Votes Charcoal Hyena   1
[P] Melon Dingo Votes Saffron Iguana   2
[P] Charcoal Hyena Unvotes Emerald Falcon   1
[P] Charcoal Hyena Votes Melon Dingo   1
[P] Salmon Meerkat Votes Coral Swan   1
  Amber Vulture Votes Ivory Dragonfly   1
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[P] Saffron Iguana Votes Mint Heron   1
[P] Amethyst Scorpion Votes Ivory Dragonfly   3
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[P] Plum Rhinoceros Unvotes Salmon Meerkat   2
[P] Azure Mouse Unvotes Sapphire Elephant   2
[P] Azure Mouse Votes Chartreuse Penguin   1
[P] Oxblood Beagle Votes Charcoal Hyena   2
[P] Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Ivory Dragonfly   2
[P] Amethyst Scorpion Votes Charcoal Hyena   3
[P] Chartreuse Penguin Unvotes Indigo Weasel   0
[P] Chartreuse Penguin Votes Ivory Dragonfly   3
[P] Saffron Iguana Unvotes Mint Heron   0
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[P] Cream Tuatara Votes Saffron Iguana   3
[P] magenta Alabatross Votes Onyx Flamingo   1
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[P] Pearl Chameleon Votes Ivory Dragonfly   4
[P] Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Ivory Dragonfly   3
[P] Emerald Falcon Unvotes Ivory Dragonfly   2
[P] Emerald Falcon Votes Chartreuse Penguin   2
[P] Pearl Chameleon Votes Chartreuse Penguin   3
[P] Onyx Flamingo Unvotes Charcoal Hyena    
[P] Onyx Flamingo Votes Chartreuse Penguin   4
[P] Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Chartreuse Penguin   3
[P] Pearl Chameleon Votes Onyx Flamingo   2
[P] Saffron Iguana Unvotes Cream Tuatara   0
[P] Saffron Iguana Votes Onyx Flamingo   3
[P] Saffron Iguana Unvotes Onyx Flamingo   2
  Saffron Iguana Votes Cream Tuatara   1
  Fuschia Ostrich Votes Ivory Dragonfly   3

 

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3 minutes ago, Opal Lion said:

Rereading EoD, Saffron/Kangaroo not E/E.

Not only that but I find myself agreeing a little with Iguana's negative read of Kangaroo based on how they voted two people and then proceeded to need information to vote Mint. Not really completely sure how to read that in all honesty, but also yeah.

And esp with that last post, not sure at all how to read Cham anymore. I don't want to try.

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[P] Salmon Meerkat Votes Emerald Falcon ^ 1
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[P] Azure Mouse Votes Salmon Meerkat ^ 1
[P] Opal Lion Unvotes Plum Rhinoceros - 0
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[P] Saffron Iguana Votes Emerald Falcon ^ 4
[P] Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Ivory Dragonfly - 0
[P] Pearl Chameleon Votes Sapphire Elephant ^ 2
[P] Azure Mouse Unvotes Indigo Weasel - 1
[P] Azure Mouse Votes Sapphire Elephant   3
[P] Ivory Dragonfly Unvotes Amethyst Scorpion   1
[P] Ivory Dragonfly Votes Sapphire Elephant   4
[P] Quartz Zebra Unvotes Sapphire Elephant   3
[P] Mint Heron Votes Oxblood Beagle   1
[P] Salmon Meerkat Unvotes Emerald Falcon   3
[P] Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Charcoal Hyena   0
[P] Amethyst Scorpion Votes Saffron Iguana   1
[P] Magenta Alabatross Unvotes Emerald Falcon   2
[P] Coral Swan Votes Salmon Meerkat   3
[P] Onyx Flamingo Votes Charcoal Hyena   1
[P] Melon Dingo Votes Saffron Iguana   2
[P] Charcoal Hyena Unvotes Emerald Falcon   1
[P] Charcoal Hyena Votes Melon Dingo   1
[P] Salmon Meerkat Votes Coral Swan   1
  Amber Vulture Votes Ivory Dragonfly   1
  Emerald Falcon Votes Ivory Dragonfly   2
[P] Saffron Iguana Unvotes Emerald Falcon   0
[P] Saffron Iguana Votes Mint Heron   1
[P] Amethyst Scorpion Votes Ivory Dragonfly   3
[P] Sage Kangaroo Votes Coral Swan   2
[P] Plum Rhinoceros Unvotes Salmon Meerkat   2
[P] Azure Mouse Unvotes Sapphire Elephant   2
[P] Azure Mouse Votes Chartreuse Penguin   1
[P] Oxblood Beagle Votes Charcoal Hyena   2
[P] Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Ivory Dragonfly   2
[P] Amethyst Scorpion Votes Charcoal Hyena   3
[P] Chartreuse Penguin Unvotes Indigo Weasel   0
[P] Chartreuse Penguin Votes Ivory Dragonfly   3
[P] Saffron Iguana Unvotes Mint Heron   0
[P] Saffron Iguana Votes Cream Tuatara   1
[P] Cream Tuatara Votes Saffron Iguana   3
[P] magenta Alabatross Votes Onyx Flamingo   1
[P] Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Sapphire Elephant   1
[P] Pearl Chameleon Votes Ivory Dragonfly   4
[P] Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Ivory Dragonfly   3
[P] Emerald Falcon Unvotes Ivory Dragonfly   2
[P] Emerald Falcon Votes Chartreuse Penguin   2
[P] Pearl Chameleon Votes Chartreuse Penguin   3
[P] Onyx Flamingo Unvotes Charcoal Hyena    
[P] Onyx Flamingo Votes Chartreuse Penguin   4
[P] Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Chartreuse Penguin   3
[P] Pearl Chameleon Votes Onyx Flamingo   2
[P] Saffron Iguana Unvotes Cream Tuatara   0
[P] Saffron Iguana Votes Onyx Flamingo   3
[P] Saffron Iguana Unvotes Onyx Flamingo   2
  Saffron Iguana Votes Cream Tuatara   1
  Fuschia Ostrich Votes Ivory Dragonfly   3

 

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1 Quartz Zebra Votes Fuchsia Ostrich   1
1 Pearl Chameleon Votes Onyx Flamingo   1
1 Amethyst Scorpion Votes Charcoal Hyena   1
1 Quartz Zebra Unvotes Fuchsia Ostrich   0
1 Quartz Zebra Votes Chartreuse Penguin   1
1 Oxblood Beagle Votes Salmon Meerkat   1
1 Azure Mouse Votes Charcoal Hyena   2
1 Mint Heron Votes Amethyst Scorpion   1
1 Opal Lion Votes Mint Heron   1
1 Sage Kangaroo Votes Pearl Chameleon   1
1 Amber Vulture Votes Onyx Flamingo   2
1 Saffron Iguana Votes Plum Rhinoceros   1
1 Salmon Meerkat Votes Amber Vulture   1
1 Salmon Meerkat Unvotes Amber Vulture   0
1 Fuchsia Ostrich Votes Charcoal Hyena   3
1 Salmon Meerkat Votes Plum Rhinoceros   2
1 Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Onyx Flamingo   1
1 Pearl Chameleon Votes Cream Tuatara   1
1 Sapphire Elephant Votes Amethyst Scorpion   2
1 Mauve Crocodile Votes Azure Mouse   1
1 Chartreuse Penguin Votes Charcoal Hyena   4
1 Onyx Flamingo Votes Salmon Meerkat   2
1 Amber Vulture Unvotes Onyx Flamingo   0
1 Amber Vulture Votes Charcoal Hyena   5
1 Coral Swan Votes Charcoal Hyena   6
1 Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Cream Tuatara   0
1 Pearl Chameleon Votes Salmon Meerkat   3
1 Mint Heron Unvotes Amethyst Scorpion   1
1 Mint Heron Votes Coral Swan   1
1 Salmon Meerkat Unvotes Plum Rhinoceros   1
1 Salmon Meerkat Votes Amethyst Scorpion   2
1 Fuchsia Ostrich Unvotes Charcoal Hyena   5
1 Fuchsia Ostrich Votes Salmon Meerkat   4
1 Saffron Iguana Unvotes Plum Rhinoceros   0
1 Saffron Iguana Votes Salmon Meerkat   5
1 Quartz Zebra Unvotes Chartreuse Penguin   0
1 Quartz Zebra Votes Saffron Iguana   1
1 Salmon Meerkat Unvotes Amethyst Scorpion   1
1 Salmon Meerkat Votes Charcoal Hyena   6
1 Magenta Albratross Votes Saffron Iguana   2
1 Mint Heron Unvotes Coral Swan   0
1 Mint Heron Votes Saffron Iguana   3
1 Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Salmon Meerkat   4
1 Pearl Chameleon Votes Saffron Iguana   4
1 Quartz Zebra Unvotes Saffron Iguana   3
1 Quartz Zebra Votes Sage Kangaroo   1
1 Oxblood Beagle Unvotes Salmon Meerkat   3
1 Oxblood Beagle Votes Pearl Chameleon   2
  Oxblood Beagle Unvotes Pearl Chameleon   1
  Oxblood Beagle Votes Charcoal Hyena   7
[P] Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Saffron Iguana   2
[P] Pearl Chameleon Votes Charcoal Hyena   8
[P] Quartz Zebra Unvotes Sage Kangaroo   0
[P] Quartz Zebra Votes Charcoal Hyena   9
[P] Fuchsia Ostrich Unvotes Salmon Meerkat   2
[P] Fuchsia Ostrich Votes Charcoal Hyena   10
[P] Oxblood Beagle Unvotes Charcoal Hyena   9
[P] Oxblood Beagle Votes Pearl Chameleon   2
[P] Magenta Albratross Unvotes Saffron Iguana   1
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  Quartz Zebra Votes Mint Heron   1
  Coral Swan Votes Oxblood Beagle   1
  Pearl Chameleon Votes Salmon Meerkat   1
  Amethyst Scorpion Votes Mint Heron   2
  Saffron Iguana Votes Mint Heron   3
  Saffron Iguana Unvotes Mint Heron   2
  Saffron Iguana Votes Mauve Crocodile   1
  Oxblood Beagle Votes Cream Tuatara   1
  Salmon Meerkat Votes Pearl Chameleon   1
  Salmon Meerkat Unvotes Pearl Chameleon   0
  Oxblood Beagle Unvotes Cream Tuatara   0
  Oxblood Beagle Votes Pearl Chameleon   1
  Oxblood Beagle Unvotes Pearl Chameleon   0
  Oxblood Beagle Votes Mint Heron   3
  Opal Lion Votes Chartreuse Penguin   1
  Fuschia Ostrich Votes Amber Vulture   1
  Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Mint Heron   2
  Amethyst Scorpion Votes Pearl Chameleon   1
  Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Pearl Chameleon   0
  Amethyst Scorpion Votes Mint Heron   3
  Coral Swan Unvotes Oxblood Beagle   0
  Coral Swan Votes Amethyst Scorpion   1
  Chartreuse Penguin Votes Pearl Chameleon   1
  Amber Vulture Votes Mint Heron   4
  Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Mint Heron   3
  Amethyst Scorpion Votes Pearl Chameleon   2
  Salmon Meerkat Votes Pearl Chameleon   3
  Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Salmon Meerkat   0
  Pearl Chameleon Votes Pearl Chameleon   4
  Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Pearl Chameleon   3
  Amethyst Scorpion Votes Amber Vulture   2
  Salmon Meerkat Unvotes Pearl Chameleon   2
  Salmon Meerkat Votes Chartreuse Penguin   2
  Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Amber Vulture   1
  Amethyst Scorpion Votes Pearl Chameleon   3
  Salmon Meerkat Unvotes Chartreuse Penguin   1
  Oxblood Beagle Unvotes Mint Heron   2
  Oxblood Beagle Votes Pearl Chameleon   4
  Oxblood Beagle Unvotes Pearl Chameleon   3
  Salmon Meerkat Votes Mint Heron   3
  Salmon Meerkat Unvotes Mint Heron   2
  Salmon Meerkat Votes Amber Vulture   2
  Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Pearl Chameleon   2
  Amethyst Scorpion Votes Mint Heron   3
  Oxblood Beagle Unvotes Pearl Chameleon   1
  Oxblood Beagle Votes Mint Heron   4
  Coral Swan Unvotes Amethyst Scorpion   0
  Coral Swan Votes Pearl Chameleon   2
  Chartreuse Penguin Unvotes Pearl Chameleon   1
  Chartreuse Penguin Votes Mint Heron   5
  Fuschia Ostrich Unvotes Amber Vulture   1
  Fuschia Ostrich Votes Sage Kangaroo   1
  Saffron Iguana Unvotes Mauve Crocodile   0
  Saffron Iguana Votes Sage Kangaroo   2
  Opal Lion Unvotes Chartreuse Penguin   0
  Opal Lion Votes Sage Kangaroo   3
  Mint Heron Votes Amber Vulture   2
  Fuschia Ostrich Unvotes Sage Kangaroo   2
  Fuschia Ostrich Votes Amber Vulture   3
  Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Mint Heron   4
  Amethyst Scorpion Votes Magenta Albatross   1
  Saffron Iguana Unvotes Sage Kangaroo   1
  Saffron Iguana Votes Mauve Crocodile   1
  Chartreuse Penguin Unvotes Mint Heron   3
  Chartreuse Penguin Votes Magenta Albatross   2
  Opal Lion Unvotes Sage Kangaroo   0
  Opal Lion Votes Magenta Albatross   3
  Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Pearl Chameleon   0
  Pearl Chameleon Votes Magenta Albatross   4
  Sage Kangaroo Votes Magenta Albatross   5
  Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Magenta Albatross   4
  Pearl Chameleon Votes Mint Heron   4
  Opal Lion Unvotes Magenta Albatross   3
  Opal Lion Votes Mint Heron   5
  Pearl Chameleon Unvotes Mint Heron   4
  Pearl Chameleon Votes Amber Vulture   4
  Opal Lion Unvotes Mint Heron   3
  Opal Lion Votes Amber Vulture   5
  Amethyst Scorpion Unvotes Magenta Albatross   2
  Amethyst Scorpion Votes Amber Vulture   6
  Opal Lion Unvotes Amber Vulture   5
  Opal Lion Votes Mint Heron   4
  Saffron Iguana Unvotes Mauve Crocodile   0
  Saffron Iguana Votes Mint Heron   5
  Opal Lion Unvotes Mint Heron   4
  Opal Lion Votes Magenta Albatross   3

 

 

Thank you so much for those spoilers, holy crud. I was lowkey about to try brute forcing a similar chart to reinforce my Vulture resistance point.

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4 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said:

Thank you so much for those spoilers, holy crud. I was lowkey about to try brute forcing a similar chart to prove my Vulture resistance point.

I'm missing a vote unvote from sage i think on pearl at a point I forgot to put in after I missed it, but I thought i saw it during EoD

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5 minutes ago, Opal Lion said:

Not only that but I find myself agreeing a little with Iguana's negative read of Kangaroo based on how they voted two people and then proceeded to need information to vote Mint. Not really completely sure how to read that in all honesty, but also yeah.

In my opinion, that gives me a V!Read of Kangaroo, if only because it means they leaned more towards voting still-unknown-alignments instead of Heron, who we now know is a Villager. Probably not E/E with Vulture or Albatross to a lesser degree. Unless they're our Soother.

@Amber Vulture, you've been around recently, probably enough to know you've survived. Any thoughts?

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1 hour ago, Elandera said:

Amber Vulture (4): Amethyst Scorpion, Fuchsia Ostrich, Mint Heron, Pearl Chameleon, Salmon Meerkat
Mint Heron (4): Amber Vulture, Oxblood Beagle, Quartz Zebra, Saffron Iguana
Magenta Albatross (3): Chartreuse Penguin, Opal Lion, Sage Kangaroo
Pearl Chameleon (1): Coral Swan

Italicized are my independent village reads. When removed, that leaves:

  1. Scorpion
  2. Vulture
  3. Beagle
  4. Zebra
  5. Iguana
  6. Penguin
  7. Kangaroo

My question is, where are the elims here?

If e!Vulture, Scorpion looks better than the rest for nearly pushing them over the edge. If v!Vulture, I don't know why e!Scorpion would be so hedgy about their exe. I'd prolly give them a tentative v!lean until I can assess them deeper.

Y'all know how I feel about the Vulture slot, but a self-pres vote is excusable either way.

Beagle is someone I need to look into deeper, going forward. Haven't retained much from their slot tbh

I really don't love the fact that Zebra was literally the first vote of the day and the first vote on Heron, that they never moved their vote later when presented options (like Kangaroo, whom I recall them sussing in the past), and that they pushed for consensus specifically on Heron while I was begging for Vulture voters. The vote stability there is shady af to me.

Y'all know how I feel about the Iguana slot; overt ties to Vulture + honestly I'm convinced Dingo voted Iguana D1 as an e/e poke/distance/get-in-the-doc-Mr-Sleep-for-17-hours-we-got-things-to-discuss vote.

I'm mostly effort clearing Penguin because of their player ID (the fact that they're not Dingoing again). Willing to relook and reconsider

Kangaroo could go either way probably, but they're definitely the least egregious slot in this list

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46 minutes ago, Magenta Albatross said:

...that's a lot of corpses.

If Dingo hasn't posted since D1, then it's possible the Spiked didn't get any use out of Dingo's seeking. Can't complain too much about that.

May as well look at the D1 votes if we've got flips from people who at least posted D1:

Which wasn't as useful as I was expecting it could have been... Weasel and Rhino didn't vote even though they posted it turns out.

I think mouse mentioned in one of his NKAs in pm that dingo hadn’t been on at all to send a pm. It’s unlikely they got the results of that I think

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1 minute ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:
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There is more to the art of Going Dingo than just going inactive >>

I mostly just remember low-investment + RP fixation. But you've stepped up on the NKA & reads front, so that's a stark enough contrast for me to give you a pass. Unless you want me to drop you down into my immediate PoE...

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