[OB] The Second Most Baseless Parshendi Theory!

[Kiiyashi]

8 hours ago, snote said:

The difference being mine has evidence in the text to back it up. A shard of the stone of ten dawns IS a "Dawn-Shard". There is no speculation to that.

A shard of The Stone of Ten Dawns COULD be considered a "dawnshard", but that doesn't mean it is a "Dawnshard".
The names can match up, sure.
But if there was a huge sword, and someone broke it, and used the fragments to make smaller swords, you could call them shard blades. Blades of a shard, but not literal Shardblades.

It's a little linguistical thing.
Hells, The Stone of Ten Dawns could have been named for, or after, the Dawnshards, or it may have literally no relation.

Sanderson is a damnation Aes Sedai, his words may not be lies, but that doesn't mean that everything can be taken at face value.

So you have enough textual references as the basis for a theory, sure, but not enough to claim it as solid fact.

[RShara she/her]

Brandon also implies that perfect gems aren't all that big a thing, and that there are a number of them.  And that many of them aren't permanent.  Kind of ephemeral for something that sounds as powerful as a Dawnshard.  Also, the Elsecallers knew of and kept "Honor's Drop" before the Recreance, which is probably the same stone as the King's Drop.  So Honor should have known about it and not been worried about "without the Dawnshards..."

We also don't know that the Stone of Ten Dawns even really ever existed or that the ruby is actually a piece of it.

 

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Questioner [PENDING REVIEW]

Where are the rest of Roshar's named gems? Like, we have the Hope diamond, we've got dozens of...

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

A lot of them are in the gem warehouse, what did I end up calling that? This is where you get me on the spot. Eh, I called it something cool. There's a lot of them around and there are places like that. One of the tricks, and I actually kind of was aware of this, particularly in book three, I was like "Yeah, I maybe should have named some of these things earlier." One of the tricks with a book like Way of Kings, there are already so many new names and terms that oftentimes I find myself finding ways to not include a new name or term because the overwhelming nature of the learning curve is so big. And I will admit, writing book three I'm like, "Ah, I should have named some of these earlier," this is what they would do.

But it's kind of this Occam's razor, well, that's the wrong term. It's this idea of "Let's try to keep it as simple as possible for that fact that it's really complex." and that's why I naturally just didn't do it. 

I would say in-world a lot of them are named. But you've also got to remember that gems are not as eternal on Roshar as they are. They are a little more ephemeral, you will often end up using them for something and they are wearing out, so to speak. So the idea that a diamond is forever is more of an Earth concept than a Roshar concept.

Footnote: Brandon appears to be referring to the Thaylen Gemstone Reserve here
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Edited March 11, 2018 by RShara

[Wyndlerunner he/him]

We also know that Honor was not necessarily sane when he claimed that the Dawnshards were used to destroy Ashyn, so we should perhaps take that with a grain of salt... 

[Maísa she/her]

On 11/03/2018 at 3:42 AM, Yata said:

I have to re-check the books for the actual quote but Honor said the Dawnshards are not Lost and not avaliable.

We know at least of two Perfect gemstones (and I assume there would be much more) around on Roshar in places easily accessible by KR and Honor.

This is a great contro to the Dawnshards=Perfect gemstones hypotesis.

Also Honor in the same sentence points at the Dawnshards lost as a shame for the war aganist Odium and this pushes me to go aganist the plague hypotesis too.

That's why I think Dawnshards = Unmade. 

It's a bit unfounded theory, but "they were made and then unmade", which makes me think that they weren't originally from Odium, just got lost during the war against Odium. 

[Yata he/him]

3 hours ago, Maísa said:

That's why I think Dawnshards = Unmade. 

It's a bit unfounded theory, but "they were made and then unmade", which makes me think that they weren't originally from Odium, just got lost during the war against Odium. 

It's a possibility, sure there is the WoB about them as Odium's splinters but it's possible they are made ALSO of an Odium's Splinter.

For now as far as I could say, it's an hypotesis without an explicit contros (someone else hypotized the DawnShards= Honorblades)