A Surgebinder with an Honorblade

[Fifth of Daybreak he/him]

This is a pretty straightforward theory. As far as evidence, I don't have any text released yet, but here are the two relevant WoB:

 

 

 

 

 

Q:  For the Honorblades, if somebody that was already a Radiant used an Honorblade, would they get that Surge also?
A:  It is possible to get multiples, yes. Good question.

 

 

 

Q:  If a Windrunner picked up that blade, would their abilities be enhanced?
A:  There would be some compounding but strength is not as much an issue with surgebinding as is the strength of the spren bond and how much Stormlight you are using.

 

 

Basically, I believe that if a Surgebinder were to pick up an Honorblade of a different order, she/he would be able to have access to those surges but at a reduced capacity, because in those two surges they are limited by the Honorblade. So if Shallan were to pick up Jezrien's Blade from Kaladin, she would only be as skilled as Szeth was as far as Stormlight use for Windrunning surges. Her enhanced physical abilities and healing factors would still be as strong as her Spren bond, but because she can only access those surges through the Honorbade, she'd be Windrunning at the reduced capacity that Szeth was. 

[kadolin]

The limitations would be dangerous level of stormlight usage and the experience or skills involved. Since Szeth does not have surgebinding abilities, he could only depend on experience and skill. KR might be able to rely on their innate healing and their stormlight usage should be superior to a normal human, making them better users of the honorblades. Skills and experience will be important as well.

I think the Windrunner honorblade will not be useful to Kaladin, but I am looking forward to the KRs wielding more surgebinding abilities with the different honorblades.

Edited August 2, 2014 by kadolin

[Fifth of Daybreak he/him]

The limitations would be dangerous level of stormlight usage and the experience or skills involved. Since Szeth does not have surgebinding abilities, he could only depend on experience and skill. KR might be able to rely on their innate healing and their stormlight usage should be superior to a normal human, making them better users of the honorblades. Skills and experience will be important as well.

I think the Windrunner honorblade will not be useful to Kaladin, but I am looking forward to the KRs wielding more surgebinding abilities with the different honorblades.

 

 

I'm not sure what you're trying to say in the first paragraph. Szeth did have Surgebinding abilities when he had the Honorblade. I speculated in my original post that the Surgebinders would still have the physical and healing advantage over non-surgebinder Honorblade wielders, but my main point is that any surgebinder using an Honorblade to access a surge not normally part of their order would have to use more Stormlight to get the same use out of those surges than a Surgebinder with natural access to that surge would. 

[kaladamSB he/him]

I'm not so sure I agree. I always felt Szeth burned through so much stormlight because the Honorblade fed off investiture similar to how Nightblood does when drawn. Since a KR already has access to a Shardblade, theoretically they wouldnt have to actually draw it at all. Just bonding the blade should give access to the surges, and without the Honorblade feeding off the stormlight, the surges should work fine IMO.

[kadolin]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say in the first paragraph. Szeth did have Surgebinding abilities when he had the Honorblade. I speculated in my original post that the Surgebinders would still have the physical and healing advantage over non-surgebinder Honorblade wielders, but my main point is that any surgebinder using an Honorblade to access a surge not normally part of their order would have to use more Stormlight to get the same use out of those surges than a Surgebinder with natural access to that surge would.

Szeth is not a KR, he has no spren bond and all his surgebinding abilities were granted by the honorblade. He is using more stormlight than a KR and he doesn't have their spren bond abilities.

I was thinking KR have an edge over a normal person like Szeth in terms of stormlight usage or healing from the dangerous stormlight usage. Szeth might be healing himself but at a reduced capacity compared to a KR. I assumed a KR will be more efficient in stormlight usage compared to Szeth.

I also considered skills and experience since Dalinar commented on it the first time he used stormlight, saying that its easier for some. But basically I think a KR would have an easier time with using the honorblade. What Brandon meant was that the honorblades somewhat strengthens the same abilities but ultimately how much stormlight used and how effective (spren bond advantage) will determine the surgebinding strength.

So a KR using a different order blade will be limited by skills/experience but they be healing more effectively and using stormlight more effectively than Szeth.

Edited August 3, 2014 by kadolin