Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) I had this picture in my mind of future wars and battles become so investiture dependent that it actually flip flops and becomes battles devoid of investiture being used for anything other than to negate the other sides investiture leaving us with pretty base soldiers fighting powerless leaning on what tech they have and less about fighting with all of their powers. Perhaps mingled in. You have total dead zones where its just raw knuckle dustups and then just outside the zone it is immortals entangled in endless mortal combat. Which systems do you think would have the advantages in what scenarios? Techs being developed without investirure as their basis would likely pull ahead in some situations likewise others would struggle in spaces where investiture works. Let's look at a null magic zone created from some form or allomantic grenade or other options: What exactly does that mean and block out? Is it only blocking kinetic investiture? Would awakened objects continue to work? In my mind awakened objects and blades / plates would likely work but stormlight may not be usable (this would / could potentially cause plate lockup). Allomancy and feruchemy would be all but useless in a zone such as this. But scadrial has a large advantage in these zones with firearms. I would say if Roshars fabrial science continues to require or need stormlight to function it would be rendered usless but things like shardblades would still function well. Obvious advantages get thrown to radiants outside of these zones but are they going to be more vulnerable in more zones from allomamcers and awakeners? Antilight probably doesn't stop your allomantic powers and this would just open up more zones where we find other systems alternating which zones to control and try to focus their forces in. What zones do we know of and what zones are more hypothetically possible / hinted at with some RAFO tags... Edited December 22, 2022 by Tamriel Wolfsbaine
Werewolff Studios he/him Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: I had this picture in my mind of future wars and battles become so investiture dependent that it actually flip flops and becomes battles devoid of investiture being used for anything other than to negate the other sides investiture leaving us with pretty base soldiers fighting powerless leaning on what tech they have and less about fighting with all of their powers. Perhaps mingled in. You have total dead zones where its just raw knuckle dustups and then just outside the zone it is immortals entangled in endless mortal combat. Which systems do you think would have the advantages in what scenarios? I think the biggest thing here is the nature of the battlefield in general. When these Investiture-rich societies eventually meet, it's going to be space age, which will mean a boat load of additional future and Investiture magic. Personally, I think it's going to go similar to the arms race between sword and armour. As methods of utilizing Investiture get more advanced, so will the methods of neutralizing it, which will lead to methods of neutralizing that (Allomantic grenades cancelling themselves out perhaps etc). We also have to factor in the volume of Investiture too. I don't feel that a single aluminum grenade would do much in the face of something like a Perpendicularity, but again maybe the technology goes well beyond that? 3 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Obvious advantages get thrown to radiants outside of these zones but are they going to be more vulnerable in more zones from allomamcers and awakeners? Antilight probably doesn't stop your allomantic powers and this would just open up more zones where we find other systems alternating which zones to control and try to focus their forces in. What zones do we know of and what zones are more hypothetically possible / hinted at with some RAFO tags... Anti-Investiture is still such a wild card. We know that all Shards have a tone, so maybe it'd be possible to create something like an Anti-Allomancer? Maybe? It's really hard to gauge the limits so far as we're only seeing the beginnings of it. Maybe some Rosharans will find a way to distill something like Mistlight and power themselves off of metal as well? Likewise from the Scadrian or Nalthin perspectives. It's truly fascinating what's going to happen when societies start stripping Shardic Identity from the Investiture they use...
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