JustQuestin2004 he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Posted September 12, 2022 So Ettmetal seems to be able to replicate any nearby Allomantic or Feruchemical abilities, and does so at range like lowering to weight of an entire airship. So if someone were to have of the 'Primer Cubes' as well as several Unsealed Metalminds, could they use the Medallions to 'Prime' the cube with an attribute, like Health for instance, grant everyone around them additional Health and have them store it in other Unsealed Metalminds? Like a slightly more complicated and less effective version of Compounding. Without any need of any Metalborn, except for creating the Medallions in the first place.
Quantus he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Posted September 12, 2022 The Primer Cubes mostly replace the individual Ferring in the equation, so they wouldnt do anything a person couldnt do, like connect to multiple people at once. But you can indeed Charge Primer cubes with powers granted my medallions and/or Hemalurgy, as far as I can recall, and you can Compound with the right pair of them. I think it would only take the UnSealed Metalminds to have a bunch of people all contribute to a common Metalmind pool, because if I recall correctly the resulting Metalminds from a Medallion-user are naturally UnKeyed as well. But if Im wrong about that then you'd need some Identity Suppression to let a bunch of people share.
JustQuestin2004 he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Author Posted September 12, 2022 So my theory is sound in principle, we just lack proper understanding of how the Unsealed Metalminds truly work, which will be fixed by the time The Lost Metal comes out, which I'm a very excited for. Athough... 3 minutes ago, Quantus said: The Primer Cubes mostly replace the individual Ferring in the equation, so they wouldnt do anything a person couldnt do, like connect to multiple people at once. Could you elaborate on this? Because I think I'm under misconception about how Primer Cubes work when channeling Feruchemy.
Quantus he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Posted September 12, 2022 31 minutes ago, JustQuestin2004 said: So my theory is sound in principle, we just lack proper understanding of how the Unsealed Metalminds truly work, which will be fixed by the time The Lost Metal comes out, which I'm a very excited for. Athough... Could you elaborate on this? Because I think I'm under misconception about how Primer Cubes work when channeling Feruchemy. Disclaimer that it's been a good lone while since I read the relevant books so I could be misremembering something, but: Ettmetal (or perhaps Primer Cubs that may be more complex fabrial-esk devices) will get Charged with an Allomantic or Feruchemical Power (not unlike Nicrosil Metalminds are supposed to, per WOB) adn from there it will emmit the Power as if it were a person. In the case of Allomancy it allows you to center the effects on the device (steel-pushes, speed bubbles) at the cost of slowly burning the Ettmetal away like allomantic metals do. With Feruchemy, it takes on the Power Charge, and from there allows the Object (like the Ship it's a part of) to tap and store an attribute like a Feruchemist would, which is how it will reduce the weight of a vehicle (but it doesnt Burn up, making it the better choice if you can manage it, IMO).
JustQuestin2004 he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Author Posted September 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, Quantus said: With Feruchemy, it takes on the Power Charge, and from there allows the Object (like the Ship it's a part of) to tap and store an attribute like a Feruchemist would, which is how it will reduce the weight of a vehicle (but it doesnt Burn up, making it the better choice if you can manage it, IMO). The object, not a person? Well doesn't this open up a whole new can of worms. What happens if the ship used Ettmetal with F-Gold, would it repair it self?
Quantus he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, JustQuestin2004 said: The object, not a person? Well doesn't this open up a whole new can of worms. What happens if the ship used Ettmetal with F-Gold, would it repair it self? No Clue. For that matter, what Happens when it Taps a bunch of Cognitive Intelligence...? Deep, DEEP Can of Worms. And Godmetals are generally supposed to be OP in fun ways, being Pure Investiture.
JustQuestin2004 he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Author Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Quantus said: No Clue. For that matter, what Happens when it Taps a bunch of Cognitive Intelligence...? Deep, DEEP Can of Worms. And Godmetals are generally supposed to be OP in fun ways, being Pure Investiture. And what the heck could Ettmetal ALLOYS do? God I love Brandon's way of story telling but for gods sake it leaves me burning inside with questions. Edited September 12, 2022 by JustQuestin2004
Quantus he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Posted September 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, JustQuestin2004 said: And what the heck could Ettmetal ALLOYS do? God I love Brandon's way of story telling but for gods sake it leaves me burning inside with questions. It may not alloy well with a lot of the relevant metals, at least if it follows the normal patterns for Alkali metals.
JustQuestin2004 he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Author Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, Quantus said: It may not alloy well with a lot of the relevant metals, at least if it follows the normal patterns for Alkali metals. I don't know Alkali metals, so I don't know what you mean. Oh and it would probably be pretty difficult to smelt Ettmetal in the first place, what with it being explosive with liquids. Wait what would happen if you melted Ettmetal, would it still explode?
Quantus he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, JustQuestin2004 said: I don't know Alkali metals, so I don't know what you mean. Oh and it would probably be pretty difficult to smelt Ettmetal in the first place, what with it being explosive with liquids. Wait what would happen if you melted Ettmetal, would it still explode? Ettmetal is a "super-cesium" and acts like an Alkali metal (ie. the left-most column on the periodic table) like Sodium and Potassium. Chemically they tend to explode in contact with water, but also they tend to create non-metallic compounds (minerals, etc). When mixed with gold, for example, some alkali metals make a metallic compound but others make semiconductor materials.
JustQuestin2004 he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Author Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Quantus said: Ettmetal is a "super-cesium" and acts like an Alkali metal (ie. the left-most column on the periodic table) like Sodium and Potassium. Chemically they tend to explode in contact with water, but also they tend to create non-metallic compounds (minerals, etc). When mixed with gold, for example, some alkali metals make a metallic compound but others make semiconductor materials. The More You Know Anyway so that would mean that only a few Ettmetal Alloys could exist then? Or would it being raw Magic made metal would it defy natural laws? Edited September 12, 2022 by JustQuestin2004
Quantus he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, JustQuestin2004 said: The More You Know Anyway so that would mean that only a few Ettmetal Alloys could exist then? Or would it being raw Magic made metal would it defy natural laws? I think that might depend on the story needs in many years when we get to the space age, so it's hard to say now. I tend to think it will be possible but will require more complex magic/Investiture processes (that might resemble Alchemy, to be honest) instead of the melting & mundane chemistry we use. At the extremes it might prove to only alloy with other Godmetals and not the mundane ones, or it might require some sort of medallion intermediate device to force them together magically. Or it might even require some magic sauce from one of the other worlds (Breaths, Gem Fabrials, etc).
JustQuestin2004 he/him Posted September 12, 2022 Author Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, Quantus said: I think that might depend on the story needs in many years when we get to the space age, so it's hard to say now. I tend to think it will be possible but will require more complex magic/Investiture processes (that might resemble Alchemy, to be honest) instead of the melting & mundane chemistry we use. At the extremes it might prove to only alloy with other Godmetals and not the mundane ones, or it might require some sort of medallion intermediate device to force them together magically. Or it might even require some magic sauce from one of the other worlds (Breaths, Gem Fabrials, etc). And chances are we'll learn this in the late 2030's, hooray.
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