Nahel Bond after death?

[JustQuestin2004 he/him]

Hypothetical situation, some guy becomes a sliver, bonds with a Spren then dies and becomes a Cognitive Shadow. 

So what happens to the Nahel Bond? Will it break or continue after death?

[SpinningSky he/him]

Not asure about the sliver bit, if you're a sliver that might complicate nahel bond depending of what shard you're a sliver of I guess.

 

But in case we're not talking about a sliver, I believe we have an example, Spoilers for SA:

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Nale is a herald, thus a cognitive shadow, and is bonded with a sprend as he's a skybreaker, so there you go, the answer is probably yes 
The only detail is that he bonded his spren after becoming a cognitive shadow, but I don't see why the bond would break if the person was to become a cognitive shadow immediatly as he died

 

[JustQuestin2004 he/him]

7 minutes ago, SpinningSky said:

Not asure about the sliver bit, if you're a sliver that might complicate nahel bond depending of what shard you're a sliver of I guess.

 

But in case we're not talking about a sliver, I believe we have an example, Spoilers for SA:

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Nale is a herald, thus a cognitive shadow, and is bonded with a sprend as he's a skybreaker, so there you go, the answer is probably yes 
The only detail is that he bonded his spren after becoming a cognitive shadow, but I don't see why the bond would break if the person was to become a cognitive shadow immediatly as he died

I'm just using the Sliver thing as an excuse for the hypothetical CS to Go Beyond before he can do anything.

And the spoiler thing:

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I'm pretty sure that Heralds are a special type of Cogniive Shadows, because they seem to have ties with all three Realms wheareas other Cognitive Shadows like Kelsier did not and were stuck in the CR.

Edit; Whoops I accidentally typed in the reply, I'll bold my stuff so i won't get confusing.

 

Edited September 9, 2022 by JustQuestin2004

[SpinningSky he/him]

Fun only talking through spoilers  spoilers for mistborn:

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very good point!

Kelsier lost his ties to the phisical realm (for some time I guess) cause he died to become a shadow, so you're right in the sense that as congitive shadows they are different in terms of connections.
As the connection to the phisical realm is an integral part of what spren get from the bond, I would say that in case the shadow is not connected to the phisical, the bond wouldn't work. I wouldn't expect it to necessarily break though, just not be as powerful, this might get better cleared up as we explore what happened to the deadeyes

 

 

[JustQuestin2004 he/him]

16 hours ago, SpinningSky said:

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very good point!

Kelsier lost his ties to the phisical realm (for some time I guess) cause he died to become a shadow, so you're right in the sense that as congitive shadows they are different in terms of connections.
As the connection to the phisical realm is an integral part of what spren get from the bond, I would say that in case the shadow is not connected to the phisical, the bond wouldn't work. I wouldn't expect it to necessarily break though, just not be as powerful, this might get better cleared up as we explore what happened to the deadeyes

 

 

Ah okay, so it's unlikely for a Nahel Bond to work the same way if someone becomes a ghost due to the lack of a Connection to the Physical Realm.

Chances are the CS would lose the Surges, but they might be able to keep the ability to breath Stormlight, which if they weren't a Sliver might help keep them from going Beyond so long as they had a renewable supply of it.

[Quantus he/him]

I vote "Continue", because if they were made into a Cognitive Shadow it would have had to happen before they moved Beyond, which is what would have broken the Bond (I think).  They would need their Body to return to (like Szeth) or a replacement (like Kelsier maybe) or there becomes a separate problem with them not providing the Spren with a link to the Physical realm. But that might just prevent them from manifesting in the Phyical realm safely without actually severing the Bond.