Stormlight and tones

[The_Nimanator]

So we know that stormlight echoes the tone of Honour and when taken through a vacuum it can be infused with the opposite tone. Would the light be capable of being infused with the tone of another shard? Would Odiums tone make it into voidlight? Cultivation into lifelight? 

If so, would using Preservation's tone make it into mist? Is this how you can change investiture without corrupting it?

[Quantus he/him]

You can Invert the wave-form to make Anti-light, and two people with an emulsifier of Common Purpose can combine them to make the combination Lights.  Beyond that we dont know what it would take to turn any "Light" investitures into any off-world Investitures.  But we do know that several very knowledgeable characters like Vasher, Hoid, the Ghostbloods and the Heralds all have yet to solve that puzzle, but are actively working on it to varying degrees.  I think it's more or less the Holy Grail of Worldhopping, because Light is stupid abundant but so damn hard to move or store, while things like Breaths are waaaay better for commerce and likely way more versatile, but normally limited by having a rare and slow source (ie. sentient births).  

[Trusk'our he/him]

3 hours ago, The_Nimanator said:

So we know that stormlight echoes the tone of Honour and when taken through a vacuum it can be infused with the opposite tone. Would the light be capable of being infused with the tone of another shard? Would Odiums tone make it into voidlight? Cultivation into lifelight? 

If so, would using Preservation's tone make it into mist? Is this how you can change investiture without corrupting it?

Maybe. Maybe you could do it, but we don't know for certain yet.

1 hour ago, Quantus said:

You can Invert the wave-form to make Anti-light, and two people with an emulsifier of Common Purpose can combine them to make the combination Lights.  Beyond that we dont know what it would take to turn any "Light" investitures into any off-world Investitures.  But we do know that several very knowledgeable characters like Vasher, Hoid, the Ghostbloods and the Heralds all have yet to solve that puzzle, but are actively working on it to varying degrees.  I think it's more or less the Holy Grail of Worldhopping, because Light is stupid abundant but so damn hard to move or store, while things like Breaths are waaaay better for commerce and likely way more versatile, but normally limited by having a rare and slow source (ie. sentient births).  

For getting the Rosharan investitures off world, I'm not certain that you even will need to convert the Lights into investiture from another Shard. Mixing the Lights already Disconnects them from their previous Shards.

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Does Investiture exist without Connection?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, but it's very hard to make. You see them making it in Rhythm of War. Some shows up in the next Wax and Wayne, too. But it's a process to make it.

 

[Quantus he/him]

2 hours ago, Trusk'our said:

Maybe. Maybe you could do it, but we don't know for certain yet.

For getting the Rosharan investitures off world, I'm not certain that you even will need to convert the Lights into investiture from another Shard. Mixing the Lights already Disconnects them from their previous Shards.

It may disconnect them but the nature of Light is innately leaky because of the rosharan storm cycle, and gem storage the same limits.  There are at least some groups that have been able to make anti-light for a while but still are working on getting things off world.

Now, the most straightforward way to ship investiture off Roshar that we know works would be actual metric tonnes of white sand, but by all appearance it's a very low density storage.

 

2 hours ago, Trusk'our said:

 

 

[Trusk'our he/him]

On 1/25/2022 at 11:23 PM, Quantus said:

It may disconnect them but the nature of Light is innately leaky because of the rosharan storm cycle, and gem storage the same limits.  There are at least some groups that have been able to make anti-light for a while but still are working on getting things off world.

I didn't mean to imply that mixing the Lights would make them less leaky, that being what would make them easier to get off Roshar, but that because they are not Connected to their Shards anymore they would have the ability to be taken off world without being pulled back or made too heavy to move, as Mraize has mentioned. Perfect Gemstones would be useful for moving them without needing to worry about them leaking though.