smallGoblin Posted December 28, 2021 Posted December 28, 2021 This is just a theory so feel free to disprove me: I think that a Regal can, instead of bonding to a voidspren, can bond to a Unmade, and effectively become a listener Bondsmith. 1
Frustration Posted December 28, 2021 Posted December 28, 2021 Not likely the Unmade do not have a Bondsmith equivelent Welcome to the shard!
Olmund Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) My response to this theory will be a bit messy, because the nahel (radiant) bond is very different from the typical singer/spren bond (trapping the spren within their gemheart), which may be different from the ancient singer/spren bond (which gave them surges before the radiants existed), and the Unmade "bonds" seem unique to each unmade and pretty different from all three of the former bonds. However, we do have some reasons to believe a nahel-like bond with some (or all) of the unmade is possible, for the following reasons: - Nahel bonds with other voidspren are possible (as we see with Renarin and Glys). However, it's entirely possible that since Sja-Anat's "enlightening" process is different from the "unmaking" process, her "enlightened" spren retain ties to Honor/Cultivation which allow a nahel bond. - Re-Shephir attempted to bond with Shallan, and Shallan's bond with Pattern got in the way of that. That said, it is unlikely that Re-Shephir's attempted bond with Shallan would have been a nahel bond (or symbiotic bond) -- it could well have simply consumed Shallan the way Yelig-Nar consumes his host after granting them all the surges. Still, it does lend some credence to the idea that any bonds with a spren can become nahel-like (given that a nahel bond can interfere with them). - Ba-Ado-Mishram seems to have specific ties to the power of connection and/or identity (since she was able to grant forms of power to the singers and connect herself and/or identify herself with something that influenced all Nahel bonds). Given her powerset, intelligence and level of investiture (which seems greater than other unmade), she would be the prime candidate for producing a Bondsmith through a nahel bonded unmade. I'm out of time, so I'll leave my thoughts there for now. Edited January 5, 2022 by Olmund 3
An Inkspren Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) There are 9 types of fused representing the 9 types of radiant orders (except bondsmith). I think if there was an odium-bondsmith, it would be classified as a fused. Edited February 17, 2022 by An Inkspren
DiePie Posted February 18, 2022 Posted February 18, 2022 20 hours ago, An Inkspren said: There are 9 types of fused representing the 9 types of radiant orders (except bondsmith) slight correction: There's 9 types of Fused corresponding to the 9 surges that they recognize (the 10 we're used to minus adhesion). The Fused are also called Fused based on their Connection to Odium, and their ability to occupy the bodies of singers in order to become functionally immortal. In my opinion, if an unmade (most likely Ba-Ado-Mishram) were to establish a Nahel Bond, they would be better classified as a Radiant, since the bond would be more similar to a Nahel bond. 1
bmcclure7 Posted February 18, 2022 Posted February 18, 2022 On 12/27/2021 at 9:35 PM, Frustration said: Not likely the Unmade do not have a Bondsmith equivelent Welcome to the shard! No that's the fused not the unmade.
Frustration Posted February 18, 2022 Posted February 18, 2022 59 minutes ago, bmcclure7 said: No that's the fused not the unmade. No it's the Unmade Spoiler XS-Terrain Also, does each of the Unmade have a corresponding order of the Knights Radiant? Brandon Sanderson Eh... Kind of. XS-Terrain Ok. So there are nine Unmade right, so which one is left out? Brandon Sanderson Bondsmith. But it's not as one to one, there's some fuzziness in there. Oathbringer San Francisco signing (Nov. 15, 2017) 1
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