How to destroy Nightblood?

[Trusk'our he/him]

Nightblood absorbs investiture, but what would happen if he absorbed anti-investiture? Would it hurt him (I suppose 'it' is a better pronoun, but I got it stuck in my head from Vasher to say 'him') if the anti-investiture was the opposite of whatever investiture he held?

[Honorless he/him]

At least Endowment and Ruin

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OrangeJedi

When Nightblood created, was Endowment involved in any way more than normal?

Brandon Sanderson

Good question, you qualified that the right way! I would say yes, but maybe not to the extent you're thinking.

OrangeJedi

Normal being using Endowment's Investiture to Awaken. There's something special.

Brandon Sanderson

I would say, there is something special.

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Walin

Does Nightblood contain any of Ruin's Investiture? Like, not atium, but...

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, technically; and I'm not wiggling around that, because technically, location in the Cosmere and who belongs to what gets really weird, right? Because Ruin's Investiture is everywhere--but I'm not talking that way. I'm talking the way you actually mean it. 

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[Trusk'our he/him]

How on Roshar did Nightblood get Ruin's investiture?!

Not saying that it's not true, just curious is all.

Edited December 22, 2021 by Trusk'our

[Honorless he/him]

20 minutes ago, Trusk'our said:

How on Roshar did Nightblood get Ruin's investiture?!

Not saying that it's not true, just curious is all.

The Investiture associated with the Shard is not just all clumped up in one place. Adonalsium's power permeated the Cosmere and when he Shattered and the 16 Vessels took up his 16 Shards, all that power got assigned to the Shards as well. You don't necessarily have to go to Scadrial to get some of his Investiture. Ruin is all ruin across the Cosmere.

[Circumlocutions]

Also most of a shard's power is in the spiritual realm and there is no such thing as location in the spiritual realm.  So you can reach through from anywhere and grab any shards power pretty much.  It's similar to how the metallic arts works anywhere. 

[Trusk'our he/him]

12 hours ago, Honorless said:

The Investiture associated with the Shard is not just all clumped up in one place. Adonalsium's power permeated the Cosmere and when he Shattered and the 16 Vessels took up his 16 Shards, all that power got assigned to the Shards as well. You don't necessarily have to go to Scadrial to get some of his Investiture. Ruin is all ruin across the Cosmere.

Yes, that's true, but as far as I understand it, there is a specific way to access a Shard's investiture, and that comes from their own magic system. The only way I've seen to access Ruin's power would be in the creation of a Hemalurgic spike. But awakening is of Endowment, and uses her investiture.

So, is more going on here? How did Nightblood access that investiture? Was the command used to create it simply close enough to Ruin's Intent that Nightblood's creation was fueled by Ruin? Or maybe a Hemalurgic spike was somehow involved?

I guess that's what I'm really confused about.

[Honorless he/him]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Five Scholars managed to tap into something more fundamental during the creation of Nightblood and either knowingly or accidentally accessed Ruin's power.

Awakening as an Invested Art seems quite close to the fundamental rules of magic in the Cosmere: Commands. I wouldn't be surprised if it's easier, past the initial cost of Breaths, to use that system to tap into deeper magic, kinda like a Bondsmith.

[Trusk'our he/him]

16 minutes ago, Honorless said:

Awakening as an Invested Art seems quite close to the fundamental rules of magic in the Cosmere: Commands. I wouldn't be surprised if it's easier, past the initial cost of Breaths, to use that system to tap into deeper magic, kinda like a Bondsmith.

Dude (or girl, I don't actually know). I've never hear such an awesome pair of sentences before. It just sounds really, really cool. And I really hope that's how it works