Viper Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 This is something that's bugged me for a while. Everyone uses the term (from Brandon) "Adonalsium" to refer to the First/Creator/God (whatever). However, we know that Ruin = Ati -> Mineral/"solid" essence = Atium, and "Preservation" = Leras -> Lerasium. Wouldn't the proper name for the being be Adonals (or maybe Adonal; see Adonai, Name of God "Lord" or "Master")? I mean, when he/it/they is/are sharded, we get the Shards of Adonalsium. However, the original being would transcend that. I see some brief discussion, especially around Hoid, about this ... for instance, http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/4928-my-hoid-theory/?p=81416: Basically, there are a few options regarding his presence at the shattering:1. He was Adonalsium and took part in his own shattering2. He was not Adonalsium and took part in the shattering3. He was Adonalsium and tried to prevent the shattering4. He was not Adonalsium and tried to prevent the shattering5. He was not Adonalsium and was an innocent bystander who had just stepped down to the corner store for a pack of smokes when Ati and Leras spotted him and asked him to come visit their sick friend, Adonal.Basically, he either is Adonalsium or is not and he either took part in the shattering or tried to prevent it. Either way we will not know anything for certain until Brandon has written the books that take place on Yolen--though the Gibletish remarks have me a bit curious. I'm going to use the term Adonai because it's more familiar ... and Adonaisium is awkward, so maybe the "L" is added for linguistic reasons. Especially because (metagaming here) Brandon is LDS so comes from a Judeo-Christian background.Which leads me to my next question: What happened to Adonai when adonalsium was shattered - or, to put it elsewise ... what happened to the creator when the power of creation was dispersed? I don't think that such a being would "die". Possibly become someone like Hoid (which is not his real name, but rather the name of someone he knew). But I highly doubt it due to the fact that people who are "in the know" disrespect him and tell him to stop doing what he's doing (which is clearly gathering/trying to gather a splinter of power from each shard he visits).On the other hand, given that he said he's "spiritually blind" ... it is possible that he is the phyiscal aspect of Adonai, separated from the spiritual and cognative. GOD THESE BOOKS ARE SO GOOD. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeiryWriter Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 I would say yes it is the best name, because that is what Brandon calls it. I don't really see the point in not using the canon name? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hoodie Mistborn Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 There was a typo in some of the original Mistborn manuscripts that had it as Adonasium, but Brandon has said that was wrong, this interview I'm sure that it is influenced by the Hebrew word "Adonai", but I don't have an issue with it as Brandon has decreed: Adonalsium, especially since I don't say it... pretty much ever, just write it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortaan Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Hrm. I'd be more inclined to think that if Adonalsium isn't actual God for the Cosmere, then it is a physical object allowing people to access God, similar to the Anima artifacts in Xenosaga. This actually could be neat, and would explain the Shattering, and why some people are incredibly super-powered (Shards), while others become normal superpowered (anyone using Investiture), and still others are normal (Doxson). That said, I doubt any of that is true, and it is what it says on the glowing box what melted Rayse's stooges' eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 The thing is, we don't know whether Adonalsium is a cosmic force independent of a holder, a metal derived from that cosmic force, a sentient entity, or what. We just know that the Dragon referred to it as God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 The thing is, we don't know whether Adonalsium is a cosmic force independent of a holder, a metal derived from that cosmic force, a sentient entity, or what. We just know that the Dragon referred to it as God. I suppose it's also possible that the Dragon was speaking metaphorically. I've occasionally heard people say "So-and-so has Christ's own patience" without literally proclaiming the subject to be Jesus. That said, I think the Dragon was probably speaking literally in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlehrma Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Of course he used Adonalsium. Jesulium or Mohamelium or Budhalium or Krishnamutalium would just sound be silly. On a slightly different note. I think your call out regarding Adonalsium versus Adonal is interesting. It points out that Adonalsium would actually be the power "byproduct" of another entity. That it is the equivalent of a sentient metal is interesting. It makes me wonder what was the prime object of which Adonalsium was itself a shard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I guess it's possible that Adonalsium is to the Shards what the Ati is to atium and Leras is to lerasium... but there are inconsistencies, so I'll file this under "cool, unlikely; keep an eye out for further evidence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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