Khyrindor

I think you should look at the back cover of the Way of Kings 

Shallan killed Testament after her mother died, which means she was already at that time at her third Truth with her. In Way of Kings it's possible "I'm terrified" is spoken to her, but she is still a deadeye by Rhythm of War so she is not "revived" like you say. Here's my thought on the timeline:

1. Child Shallan bonds Testament; progresses to Third Truth

2. Shallan kills her mother with Testament; breaks her bond.

3. Cryptics continue to investigate her, allowing her to continue to draw Stormlight (as we see in WoR when Wit approaches her). It's possible by this time she is still at the First Oath in a general sense.

4. Shallan kills her father; leaves to steal Jasnah's Soulcaster.

5. "I am terrified" doesn't count as a Truth

6. "I killed my father." Second Truth to Pattern, in which case she swears sometime later. I think the second is likely, otherwise she would be at her Fifth Truth after RoW. She is still unable to use Pattern as a living Shardblade, but is still bonded to Testament's corpse.

7. Shallan kills Tyn with Testament.

8. Pattern used as a Blade during the chasm sequence, so by then she has sworn a Third Truth, perhaps in the Chasms once she remembers some things.

9. "I killed my mother" is either a Forth Truth for Pattern or a Resworn Second for Testament. This would imply she's able to summon Shardplate, but doesn't know it.

10. "I killed my spren" is either Fifth Truth for Pattern, or Third for Testament. If the latter, I would wonder why she's not revived yet, but Brandon has left room for there to be more requirements.

That stupid silver chain from Oathbringer... What is??

That first WoB was my buddy's question. We are thinking along the same lines as you are, for sure. In Oathbringer, the letter from Endowment is very cocky, even suggesting that Endowment is confident that she can "deal with" Odium if he becomes a problem. With Nightblood on Roshar able to permanently kill the Voidbringers, I think it's definitely likely that Nightblood is part of her schemes in dealing with Odium, but I can't say with any certainty that he is her "end game".

They will hopefully be back in a couple of months, they knew this would be happening.

5 hours ago, Doomstick said:

Ya sure bout that?

I meant 2, thanks

On 1/2/2019 at 11:28 AM, cgluch said:

Perfect!  Now, how to convince my wife I NEED a third/fourth copy of all these books..... Haha.  My big question now is how they're going to make a leather-bound edition of the stormlight archive series?  Those things are massive!

I think one thought that's been thrown around was doing them as two volumes in a slipcase. The UK editions already have them as 2-volume books, so it wouldn't be a difficult adjustment for the publishers. They'd definitely be too big for one book each.

Um, actually, Demoux lived to become an agent of the Seventeenth Shard. Some say he is living to this day.

Ash is the Patron Herald of the Dustbringers.

@Argent Where do I go to help transcribe? The audio for the signing line isn't in the "sources" tab on Arcanum, from what I can see.

Had a lot of fun at the signing! It was my first one since Calgary in 2014, and I got to bring some friends down from Interior British Columbia as well. Between the three of us we got a lot of questions answered. The verbatim will be in the recordings, but here are some highlights:

-Felt was Cosmere-aware during Era 1, but Brandon wouldn't confirm if he was directly or indirectly involved in the interplanetary trade via the Pits of Hathsin. I also asked if he was part of the Seventeenth Shard and he said he's had his fingers in a lot of things, but is not in the Seventeenth Shard as of Oathbringer.

-Mraize is a Roshar native, RAFO to how old he is.

-Khriss knows the Intents of all 16 Shards, and knew them when she wrote the essays.

-Shards can smite people depending on where they are. For example, Odium can't smite people, but Endowment can. [I assume this is because Odium isn't on Roshar, but it's very interesting to me that Endowment can, given her Intent.]

-Shards cannot cancel power to someone using their magic. If they had to stop them the best way would be to smite them. Brandon expounded and said cancelling power would be like cancelling the laws of physics.

-All Shards have different limitations when it comes to speaking to or listening to humans and Brandon will be getting to that in the future.

-I asked if Autonomy directly helped Odium kill Apna and Skai. I got the RAFO I expected, but Brandon added that generally fighting Shard to Shard is a bad idea without help. I'm looking forward to the verbatim words on this answer.

-I got clarification that Riino from the lighthouse in Oathbringer was an Ire, and was also the Hoed Elantrian that Raoden brought to the Shardpool in Elantris. I also asked if he was Ire before that happened and Brandon said no.

-I asked if the Five Scholars ever spoke to Endowment in a way they would remember, and was RAFOd.

-I asked how good Endowment's future sight was when compared to other Shards, and was RAFOd.

I also have a recording of the reading, which was a Taln scene from what would have been book 9 of The Way of Kings (2002 version). It was interesting but I don't think there was anything too revealing. There were some fun general q&a answers (not Cosmere related) and an awesome speech by Brandon. 

It was awesome to meet @hoiditthroughthegrapevine and go over questions as well. 

It was definitely worth the 7 hour trip down!

16 hours ago, Pagerunner said:

A recent WoB that's got me thinking about our mysterious kandra worldhopper and bringing this thread back up:

Brandon's phrasing there strikes me as a little odd. He doesn't say the phrase will help us find Terris people; he says "people who have been socialized like Terris people." It comes across a little verbose; why is he being that specific? It makes me wonder if WalDo has been exposed to enough Terris influence that she has picked up on this trait, and that's the specific person that Brandon had in mind at the end of his answer. Because she wouldn't strictly be Terris; she'd have some Terris-influenced speaking patterns.

So, do we have any characters in Oathbringer who have that particular affectation? Because remember:

 

Just did a word search of Oathbringer and the only significant use of "I think" is in the epigraph from Harmony. So, that might be what Brandon is suggesting.

The black sphere is the restaurant at the end of the cosmere

The black sphere is the Shard that wants to hide and survive

The black sphere is Vin's obsidian chunk

The black sphere is a dead disgusting crab thing with seventeen legs

The black sphere is Tien's favourite rock

The black sphere is one of Thom Merrilin's lost juggling balls

The black sphere killed Asmodean

The black sphere is not the droid you're looking for

The black sphere is WalDo

I and a few Sanderfriend converts will hopefully be coming down from BC. I need to settle on some questions soon!

37 minutes ago, Kramerfarve said:

Taln is Arnold Schwarzenegger, change my mind

Taln is Idris Alba

Unnnhhh It's 14 hours away  

See, from the title of the thread, I thought we were going to just be attributing existing cereals to the Shards or planets, and my mind connected a few before I even opened it.

Froot Loops: Nalthian cereal. Very colorful and tropical, could see it in restaurants there tbh

Cap'n Crunch: Honor's cereal! It's militaristic, and basically splinters when you bite down!

Mini Wheats: Scadrian breakfast. Bland, made with basic wheat. Hopefully you can get inventive with the iron content.

Lucky Charms: The personal cereal of Hoid. Only he can eat it and divine their secrets.

Shreddies: Odium's cereal, for obvious reasons.

Raisin Bran: idk, I feel like it's something Preservation would eat. People will still be eating raisin bran when the sun explodes and the world dies. It's timeless.

Edgedancers: Not only is cutting off your fingers and immediately Regrowing them a sick joke to play in front of children, but it is also a complete waste of stormlight.

8 minutes ago, Ham_Boan said:

Hey guys, I want to get some ideas for some fan art with a medium of wood. I do have access to most tools, I just need ideas on what to make. Any suggestions would much appreciated! Thanks !

A wood-burned map of Scadrial done after the style in the Mistborn Leatherbound Editions would be pretty cool.

1 hour ago, Jorville said:

1. Captain America: Civil War- they just did a great job presenting the story, totally team Cap.

2. Avengers: Infinity war- just wow

3. Ant Man- So funny, I think it's their most underrated movie.

4. Dr Strange- Cumberbatch does a great job in the role, and the scene the the broom closet(which her reaction was real, the mop wasn't supposed to fall)

5. Guardians of the Galaxy- it's just so fun.

Ant-Man was good, but I can't abide their breaking science. Like, if you explain that the magic works a specific way, don't ignore it every other time it's used... The comedy and characters and story was gold though, I agree.

1. Avengers: Infinity War (It was perfectly made. No other movie got my heart pounding like that.)

2. Doctor Strange (Just such a great movie. Reminded me of a Sanderson book in many ways. Loved the magic and the characters journey, and it was paced perfectly.)

3. Black Panther (Solidly done, but a bit familiar. Awesome cast of characters.)

4. Spider-Man: Homecoming (Still home to my favorite villain, and Tom Holland rocks as Spider-Man. Did extremely well for a third reboot.)

5. (Honestly too hard to decide between all three of the Captain America movies, the first Iron Man movie, and Guardians of the Galaxy.)

My personal recommendation: Read through the stories in Arcanum Unbounded (marked with an asterisk*) alongside their respective novels (in bold) .

Selish System:

-Elantris 

-Hope of Elantris* (Contains major spoilers for Elantris)

-Emperor's Soul*

-Selsih Essay*

Mistborn Era 1:

-The Eleventh Metal* (Optional, can also be read after the first Mistborn Trilogy)

-Mistborn (AKA The Final Empire)

-The Well of Ascension

-The Hero of Ages

-Mistborn: Secret History* (So much better here, but I have a controversial opinion. Major spoilers for Mistborn Era 1.)

-Scadrial Essay*

Warbreaker:

-Warbreaker (Good contrast to Mistborn, definitely read before Way of Kings)

Standalone (for now) Short Stories:

-Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell*

-Threnody Essay*

-Sixth of the Dusk*

-Drominad Essay*

Mistborn Era 2:

-Alloy of Law

-Shadows of Self

-The Bands of Mourning

-Allomancer Jak and the Pits of Eltania*

White Sand

-White Sand (Prose, graphic novels are optional, but canon)

-Taldain Essay*

Stormlight Archive:

-The Way of Kings

-Words of Radiance

-Edgedancer*

-Rosharan Essay*

-Oathbringer

Unpublished Novels/Further Reading:

-Aether of Night (Unpublished, so not canon. Optional.)

-Annotations

-Way of Kings (Prime)/Dragonsteel Prime chapters.

For some of these qualms people have, I would just ask "What could he have done better? Give examples." And if they can't think of anything, their stance is unjustified. You don't have to like something, but don't invent reasons for not liking something that makes it sound like you don't know it at all.

Some of the things I've heard some say is that the books tend to be slow to start. This one I agree with, but I'm not one to be turned away by a slow start as some are. I've also had people say that they don't like some of the things Brandon has done to characters. This comes down purely to opinion or taste on how stories should end, and therefore isn't necessarily something Brandon could do better. I can understand some people not liking the writing style. There are authors like Rothfuss or Hobb that have a beautifully written prose. Brandon's at times seems simple. I think that he does this on purpose and that it allows him to write faster and put out more content. It's also somewhat refreshing to read and not have to think overmuch about what a phrase means.

7 minutes ago, Argent said:

That's cheating, I spent more time making my own topic pretty, and so you beat me to it

Alas, Argent's topic is better! 

https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-girl-dreams-of-battling-aliens-in-this-exclusive-exce-1825882267

Exciting news! I myself don't have time to read the excerpt right this second, but I will before the day is out!

4 hours ago, Wandering Investor said:

Throw in that we know Odium has allies, unknown who exactly, Autonomy is a strong candidate for the one interfering with Harmony, and Hoid's grudge against Rayse and Bavadin, and we have a possibility that Autonomy is working with Odium. But Hoid reached out to Autonomy in his letters, which I doubt he would do if Autonomy was allied with Odium, so its hard to say for sure. 

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True! It's also possible that some of Autonomy's Aspects/Avatars/Personas are allied with Odium, and some are not. 

Let's keep this free of OB spoilers, though, as this wasn't in that subforum.