Swimmingly

When I say "stored heat" in the metalminds, I mean the physical quality of brass to absorb and then reemit heat. Not the feruchemical propereties. Sorry about that.

From what we've seen so far, a compounding brass twinborn would look something like The Human Torch, probably sans spontaneous fireballs or jet-powered flight, but you get the idea. I know kurkistan has already put forward theories about them radiating spiritual "warmth" rather than heat, so lets stick with the idea that their warmth cannot actually set things on fire. Now, the problems: Feruchemical brass users should be immune to their own heat, but let's assume that they aren't invincible to added sources of heat, such a shower of burning gasoline, for instance (I'm slightly evil). Now, we immediately run into problems. They are immune to their own heat - but not negligible increases (as much as you can call a shower of burning gasoline "negligible"). How does this heat resistance work? What about heat stored up in a metal object (it's silver, for the sake of Feruchemic brevity - no tricksies here)? Why would a shower of gasoline on a freezing mountaintop, where the heat is being whipped away by wind and cold, hurt him more than that same amount of heat radiated back at him from the inside of an airtight silver casket with a Thermos-style layer of near-vacuum and then some stainless steel (I did say I was evil...)? In both cases, the net heat gain is more or less the same-ish, yet, why should one hurt him and the other not? If they DO both hurt him, we run into the problem whereby we wonder why his metalminds don't do the same. I recognize that this may be one of those areas where we realize that Brandon didn't think about everything, but the blatant dismissal of that possibility is what this forum runs on. Anyway.... DISCUSS!

I see problems regarding transfer of heat via radiance vs conductance, heat stored in objects, application of amounts of heat negligible compared to that already radiated off, etc..... but I'll assume they've been handwaved or dealt with, so I won't go into semantics

Yup. I feel the same way. Also, to those who have read it in .doc, I recommend using an epub converter like calibre. It makes the experience MUCH smoother. If there is a way to prove you have read it, I will gladly give anyone who can give the above proof a copy of the epub I made from it, if it's alright with Brandon and co. However, it's really easy, so I recommend you do it yourself.

So then, energy radiated from an Feruchemical brass ferring has some kind of "tag" associated with it - "do not hurt this person"? Why don't these apply to allomantic internal metals? Is it because the Investiture in allomancy comes directly from a shard, whereas Feruchemical brass is "attuned"? I'm getting REALLY off topic. Sorry

Another thing that bothered me about this was the fact that Alceste is suddenly breathing air moving much slower than him, if he is indeed both touching the time bubble and not part of it. How does that work? Come to think of it, are time bubbles airtight?

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It simply seems to me, based on what I've gotten by lurking around for a few days, that some of the possible interactions seem way too obscure. For example, a compounding brass Twinborn could basically turn himself into The Human Torch, right? And Ferrings are immune to the effects of their own Feruchemic compounding. So what happens when he superheats his metalminds from the heat off his skin? Do they burn him? Are they even affected? What about if he's holding a piece of wood, or his own clothing? Do they burn him through the heat the emit via the chain-reaction combustion started by his Compounding?

On the other hand, if I was Brandon, I would be tossing irrelevant words like "That's an interesting theory" like chum into a shark tank. He reads this stuff as well, and I bet he has the time of his life seeing us take the tiniest hint and running as fast as we can in the opposite direction he intended - if he even thought of it himself.

I personally think that they're already too "complete" as characters to make a really interesting huge epic series - instead, taking them through these episodic-type books he has planned for this little Mistborn mini-series is perfect.

Ok, just to confuse everybody more: Thought experiment! Wayne creates a time bubble centered around himself, with Wax standing next to him. However, a baddie - let's call him Alceste - happens to have his arm outstretched so that he is touching the outside of the time bubble, but barely. Wax, being properly alarmed at the hulking Thug eager to separate him into several pained components, aims and fires a bullet at Alceste's face - which is outside the time bubble. However, Alceste is still touching the time bubble, and, being alive, is included in its effect. Let's assume for the purpose of brevity that the bullet is deflected into a vector still rather inconvenient for Alceste. Now, Alceste has a free hand. What happens when he tries to move the bullet? Wax is still there, in all his badassitude. What happens when he tries to Push on the bullet from within a bendalloy bubble? If this actually happened at any point in the book, sorry - but please give me a page reference.

Thank you for correcting me on this... The whole "normal physics work" and "Create time-bubbles, nearly sentient zombies, and air-drawn runes that spray pure power" all in the same universe still kind of confuses me. I'm new here

I find it kind of strange that the ability to specifically control copper was never discovered by a thousand + years of people like Clubs, with entire teams of apprentice Smokers working under them. I can understand why they wouldn't have the alloys, due to cost and law, but still, unless this control of copper requires interactions we haven't seen yet, it seems kind of dubious.

Is it possible, given that the Shardworlds are all in the same dwarf galaxy, that FTL isn't actually required for manageable trips between Shardstars? What if only a significant fraction of c is required to accelerate to speeds that let one reach other stars within days/weeks/months/years? The cosmere stuff in the third trilogy does not necessarily have to include physics-breaking FTL, just manageable distances and speeds at around 0.5 c - difficult, but possible within normal physics.

Feruchemy, definetly. I can afford to be stupid, slow, unlucky, light, sleepy, hungry, hypoxic, thirsty, antisocial, depressed, blind, deaf, sick, weak, cold, (insert all other relevant sensations here) and have a weak sense of identity every few weeks if it will let me generally badass my way around the rest of the time.

Sorry I can't remember which interview it's from, but BS has said that "something" has to be either in the bubble or out of it. It can't be a little of both. Inferring from that, with what we know about the Cosmere (specifically, spiritual identity, as discussed in The Emperor's Soul) the bubble needs to cover some specific point on the object, probably its rough center as determined by how it's seen and how it sees itself. My point is, the bubbles probably slow or speed things based on whether they cover one of the object's specific (hemalurgic?) bindpoints. If this is applied to the prior correction, it more or less means that the bubbles are an arbitrary border that affects all objects within it, not a direct effect on local spacetime. Anyway, a universe where the self-identity of objects is more important than the distribution of fundamental forces already messes with the physics of FTL incredibly.

Then, if you were at Scadrial's escape height and velocity, with a large enough number of Coinshot-Nicroburst pairs, you could have the Coinshots all steelpushing against the planet's core hard enough to launch a spaceship to near-light speeds? I mean, the coinshots would all probably either have a single point of force drilled through their center of mass or simply squished to death in a balanced manner all over their bodies in a moment, but you could get going.