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  1. Mystic
    I’m a bit confused by the first bit because I was given multiple chances to say that it was a test or something. Doc straight up was like, “what’d you actually do” I could’ve claimed to have actually followed doc. I’m saying I followed Star Fair, none of it makes sense to me either.
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    Uhmmmm, Hammers?

    Mystic commented on Mystic's blog entry in Bouncing Ideas

    lol, I completely forgot about this So just Hollywood not knowing what it’s doing then?
  3. Mystic
    Honestly fair, I want to trust Star for similar reasons. Idk about her, but I’d be fully exposing myself as Elim in my PM with her, because it doesn’t change the dynamic in thread. considering there’s not much to do right now, Perhaps both Star and I are Elims and we’re just chaos goblins
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    Ah dang it, you found out my Elim Strat lol, making a Rp character everyone wants to stick around so that they don’t vote me out. In all seriousness though, unless Araris shares something new, I can’t figure it out. I must be missing something, but I’ve gone over my PM, and I’ve gone over the rules, I’ve asked Araris for some clarifications, and I still don’t know how or why this happened.
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    I don’t know if I explained myself from my point of view(most of it is probably here, but I don’t think all of it is. I know I explained it to Doc in PMs though) Alright: I was suspicious of Star, I didn’t like the timing of some of her votes, and as such I followed her N1. What I got back at the beginning of D2 was that she had explored the middle floor N0. I was at first a little confused when Doc told me Star said she didn’t get the thing about her being followed. Because I knew she had gotten it, and because of her reaction to my post saying I followed her. From what Doc told me, she seemed to bring it up herself and had double checked everything in her GM PM, and when Star and I were talking, I was also getting V!vibes from her. As I’ve mentioned(or, Doc mentioned that I mentioned) this is a terrible thing for either of us to lie about, if I was going to fake a claim, I could have said I got lost searching for her(it’s a 20% chance) or I got a clue(those are almost impossible to verify), as for her, it draws attention to herself unnecessarily, no one was under scrutiny, so it couldn’t have been to protect anyone, and in a scenario 2, that wouldn’t even mattered because there’s only one killer at a time in FFA. I did double check with Araris and I am interpreting my PM correctly. And neither GM has clarified anything, so it’s not a GM mistake(i.e. if I got lost and based Star’s PM off of that, and then told me where Star got searched) When I was looking over the rules, none of the items, scenario rules or the exploration rules could have caused this. So I don’t think Star is Elim, but she has to be, but it doesn’t make sense because this entire thing should not be happening. I thought maybe that Star was doing a reaction test or maybe she had misunderstood, but neither of those seem to be happening. And I’m not sure what’s happening, but I’m going to take my vote off of Star for now. Because this entire thing makes no sense. VC: Mist (2): Mint, Mippo/____ Star (2): Striker, Doc As a side note, this is a tie, so how people react will be helpful —————— Brax flipped the top card and sighed in relief. Balance. All was right again.
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    You mean the train that only exists because Star’s and I’s GM PMs don’t seem to match? Edit: I’m not saying you shouldn’t vote me, you probably should vote one of Star and I, I’m just saying that that reasoning doesn’t make sense
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    I’m going over the exploration and scenario rules right now, and I don’t think any of them could have cause this. A protect shouldn’t affect exploration, a Roleblock could, but then I wouldn’t have gotten my results from searching back, so it can’t be that. I don’t have an Aviar, so that shoudnt matter. As for the scenario roles/gifts it’s just vote manip and the NK. Neither of those should produce this. With the items we can get from exploration, those shouldn’t have been able to apply anyways. Plus no one searched for them. I’m throughly confused, because this should not be happening. As an Elim, this is a terrible move from either of us. But it doesn’t make sense otherwise.
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    I didn’t think you were skeptical enough of him to follow him(it’s not the impression I got of you the last two days) and you were the only person who hadn’t claimed. And I didn’t follow Doc, so my reasoning was that in a scenario 2, it made no sense for anyone to lie about that if Star’s Elim. If that makes sense. Basically, I didnt follow him, and I didn’t think you would, so I thought he was reactionary testing
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    I’m gonna keep this short, I have practice. I did follow Star, and if she’s claiming otherwise either she’s the one doing a reaction test or lying. If it’s a reaction test, then I feel like you’ve gotten a reaction test, but otherwise Star If it’s not a reaction test, I see no reason for you to lie other than if you’re Elim. I’ll be back in like 2 hours though to check up on the thread edit: oh, and @Doc12 I’m actually pretty confident you didn’t get a message saying you got followed
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    Someone is a killer, and the NK gets passed around(I don’t remember when, it’s possible it changed already from the original person) and we want to be the last 2 standing. The other way to win is the hero role, which seems to be an automatic win. And you get that from lynching that days killer
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    Alright, even accounting for 1 being fake, it seems to me we’re in scenario 2, which also makes sense because the other solutions didn’t make enough sense to me. I don’t have anything else to go on, but we need to get votes out here _____
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    I just realized I’m being an idiot. I completely forgot about the possibility that Doc or Star is lying. Basically, what we’ve determined that it’s impossible for it to be scenario 3. However, we’re basing it to be scenario 2 on the clues we find. And in scenario 1, it would be a viable strategy to false claim clues. In other words, before I can consider this to be scenario 2, I have to consider an Elim team with at least one of Doc or Star. Right now we have three clues revealed, that’s not a lot, and easily skewed by a false clue. As such, unless other people want to claim a clue from scenario 2(I’d need a total of 4 people probably to feel sure) I need to get this out of the way. E!Doc: Doc said he explored the upstairs. I’m not sure if he’s lying or not. I haven’t checked. If he is Elim, that clears Mint and Fizz, as he was online for rollover. In this case, I suppose I could see an E!Doc, but I haven’t gotten the normal vibes from him in PMs, he’s been surprisingly quiet about asking me for information and opinions. This actually suggests E!Striker though, he initiated a vote on him, and asked us to join him. After I did though, he moved his to Dive. Could be him trying to bus a teammate and then shifting to Dive when he was put up as a viable tie. E!Star: I know that Star wasn’t lying about her exploration, but if she is Elim, she has no reason to, since she didn’t explore the basement she has nothing to fear about telling the truth about her search. I’ve mentioned my dislike about her timing and everything, but I don’t have much to extrapolate from this. So… I kinda have to decide which is more likely Scenario 2, or scenario 1 with an Elim in Doc or Star. E!Doc does seem to line up with some stuff, but I’m not getting E!Doc from PMs with him. E!Star could be it, but I’ve not seen anything about her teammates. I think for now I’m going to cancel my vote on Ver And hopefully some more people searched for Clues, because without them I can’t really put aside the possibility of E!Doc or E!Star Edit: I just really ____ also got the same clue Doc did. This is more in favor of the scenario 2 for me, but I’d still like another clue from scenario 2 to be sure. Continuing my thing of analysis E!______: I don’t have much here, like, at all.
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    Well, based on everything, including the clues, the NK, and the ties on D1, I think we can safely assume we’re in scenario 2 for now(so unless all the other people who searched for clues got scenario 1 clues) that is probably what we’re in. Looking at the scenario 2 rules and weights. It’s weighted for based on exploring upstairs, gives roles to downstairs, and the Gun to middle floor people. Looking at it from that perspective, assuming the person lied about their exploration(may not have) but I want to vote someone not on the middle floor. So…. Doc, Ver, Striker, Mint, Fallen. I don’t have a read on Fallen yet, Doc I’d like to keep around, Ver… didn’t vote, and we kind of need that, so yeah. Mint, I’m not sure, and same with striker Verdance So, there’s a 65% chance to get clues from our scenario, and a chance for the clue to not be from our scenario, so getting that clue doesn’t guarantee scenario 1. that was a bad explanation, sorry, the best I can do here is refer you to the rules
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    First off, this means we can’t be in scenario 3, second, I searched Star tonight and she was telling the truth about her searching N0, so she’s probably not a scenario 1 Elim. Im gonna go and look at what Dive’s been saying these past bits to see if perhaps he was NKed for that
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    Well, in the event of Scenario 1(the one where following is best, the middle floor or the top floor) At least, that’s where the person I’m searching is
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    Brax rubbed his eyes, staring out one of the many windows of the room. With Warren dead, that meant two people had died so far…. Was the Void card worth risking death? He’d shown it was from when he found his skull card. Not to mention that he couldn’t leave. Not yet. The house would not let him. Brax pulled out his deck of cards, flicking through them. Should he draw one? He wasn’t sure… He might need them later… Against his better judgement, Brax flipped the top card. Idiot. Brax snorted, he supposed they were, after today. The question was one of tomorrow, would it hold? Or would everyone get their act together to help figure this out? He didn’t know.
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    We got told C by Araris, it’s 65% and C doesn’t change And even if it did, the number of alive players vs the number of players is different
  18. Mystic
    Well want to be aware that the Elim team(regardless of what scenario) will probably lie about their results. Meaning we may have to double up on searching people to prevent that
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    Oh, you’re right, I misread the part about finding where they searched to finding who they targeted. Finding out who’s lying could be a way to find Elims(they’re the only ones with incentives to lie) which actually might be better than following the NK(at least for now) in scenario 1, finding out who lied is basically finding out who the Elim team is, in scenario 2(for today only) it finds the first gun-holder, and in scenario 3, if there isn’t an NK, it tells you who the Kandra is, but searching players in scenario 3 doesn’t make sense and for scenario 2, past N1 it doesn’t make sense to do so. So… maybe today we search players? And then after that go to searching for clues, unless we find out we’re in scenario 1, in which case we got back to searching for people
  20. Mystic
    So, looking at the rules, we can either explore the house or other people(people with roles I’d suggest using them) but other people should probably search for the house for clues. We could get lucky and follow an NK, but you’d have to be very lucky for that, and right now I think finding the scenario is more important Edit: nevermind, after thinking it over, I think it might be better to follow people. I think
  21. Mystic
    I can agree with this, though I will say there is a chance that the Elims weren’t online for rollover, since everything happened about 2 hours before rollover. I do find it a bit hard to believe that they didn’t have one person online though, so that’s unlikely.
  22. Mystic
    Yeah, this was expected. He wasn’t falsifying any stats or rules info like last game, he really was acting like LG 110. And now he gets to look at us from the spec doc and be frustrated at us for making stupid decisions
  23. Mystic
    I can understand that, I just don’t like the timing of it. I won’t vote you today though, so you’ll have a bit to convince me otherwise
  24. Mystic
    I actually don’t like this, Wahr has a vote taken off and you immediately put another on him. I think for me this is more evidence of V!Wahr and I’m E!leaning Star now Pretty much.
  25. Mystic
    We got this confirmed by Araris, but if the person who dies tonight has a role, it cannot be scenario 3. If no one dies tonight it can’t be scenario 2.
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