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I was under the impression that he was against wearing spikes. Even ones as small as the earrings that harmony uses to communicate. Also, didnt he just want to stop with the action? I dont really remember it that well since ive read TLM some time ago
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Does giving a person one of the blessings do anything special or does it work like it does with kandra? Does it make like a kind of koloss or just enhances what it does for kandra? Does it work? Do they give allomantic/ferruchemical abilities instead? Perhaps there are some WoBs i missed or some other information i forgot. Anyways here Is what the coppermind says about the blessings. Also, are the blessing spikes filled with allomancy/ferruchemy? It could be a possibility that instead of giving them the powers it just enhances some things and gives them awareness
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We know that, aside of the four types of spikes/blessings given to mistwraiths to give them conscience and turning them into kandra, there Is a type of spike that would let them use allomancy and maybe there Is one that lets them use feruchemy. I wonder how this would work. Does the spike transfer when they change bodies or are they locked in the same body if they want to keep their power? It Is probably the first one though who knows. If it Is the first one then it would allow for a very overpowered being since we know they can gain allomancy through lerasium and feruchemy through some unknown way regarding atium, lerasium and harmonium So a fullborn kandra will probably be one of the most dangerous and invested things in Scadrial Doesnt matter if its through spikes, natural means, or unsealed metalminds
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So from what i understood from all of this, Is that it might be possible under specific circumstances and that kandra probably cant recreate DNA. So if they were to have a child it would be theirs, not from the body they were hosting. As to how this child might be, i'm guessing it cannot change bodies, like it Is stuck with its human forma, although it could possibly slightly rearrange their bodies for some specific things, like swapping a broken bone for a new healthy one or becoming taller by getting larger bones, though i dont think it can recreate anything, so whatever it does it would hurt itself in doing so by stretching organs and skin. Or thats what i think would happen where one to exist
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Alright, i had forgotten most of that information and it Is quite important for the subject. There are some ways to preserve them for some time, as you said, and the process i imagine would probably be fast: they take your powers, transport them somewhere with people who maybe trained with unsealed metalminds and give it to them. Also, i remember somewhere in era 2 it was said that you can take the power and leave the person alive, this could mean not only taking powers from people about to die, but also from people who doesnt want them or criminals or deserters at some war. Idk i'm just stating possibilities I should have probably specified, but i didnt mean we would get this on era 3 (although we could get a little bit). I was looking more at the possible ciberpunk era and the space opera era. Which by then i'm guessing it will be more than possible with so many advancements, though who knows. It Is but a theory. So, we know there indeed Is an upper limit to how many hemalurgic spikes a person can use, both in the sense that it stops giving you abilities and it takes a great toll that humans from current eras cannot withstand. So lets say that we will try to keep the spikes on a single person to a minimum, so maybe two spikes to allow compounding and one more to complement the others (like duralumin allomancy). We could also assume access to unsealed metalminds will grow as the eras pass. Allowing for further power. We also know that lerasium and atium can be created from harmonium, allowing for mistborns to be created without the use of hemalurgy. And there Is one WoB that suggests that something similar could be done to create full feruchemists Maybe through burning harmonium (although something would have to be done to avoid exploding yourself) Anyways, with advancements, access to these god metals could become easier and perhaps the opportunity to create fullborns without hemalurgy would rise Thx!
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It would also be the easiest and cheapest way that allows for multiple powerful individuals with less recourses. Or thats what i think at the very least. Also, i wasnt aware there was a retcon on how hemalurgic compounding works, i'll have to check on that later
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Alright, we know that you can gain allomantic and feruchemical powers through hemalurgy, admittedly some of the power Is lost, although there might be a way to prevent this: This leaves you open to being manipulated by shards though, and the more spikes you have, the harder it Is to resist. We can see this with Marsh and the inquisitors being controlled by Ruin in era 1. We also know that aluminium helmets can help to avoid this mind control Anyways, thanks to this, we know there Is a way to have all the allomantic and feruchemical powers with little backlash, since aluminium will become so common and cheap, it would be easy to avoid this, or at least to prevent a shard from fully taking control of yourself, although there are more methods to avoid this mind control. Ok, i will give two things that could happen with all this in lunes First: an evil organization (like the Set) could start mass killing mistings and ferrings with spikes to get the power for themselves creating armies of fullborns, mistborns, full feruchemists, twinborns (with or without compounding), mistings and ferrings. Second: there will be like a donor (voluntary or not) system so that when you are close to die someone spikes you to preserve the power and give it to others and make something like a government army full of fullborns, mistborns, full feruchemists, twinborns (with or without compounding), mistings and ferrings.
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Ohh, i wasnt aware of that WoB, that certainly seems interesting, if he RAFO'd it, it probably means access to atium and lerasium could become easier, or maybe it Is the product of burning harmonium, since allomancy Is from Preservation, hemalurgy from Ruin and feruchemy from both (you would have to put it through some special process to avoid exploding yourself if thats the case). I wonder what he Is going to do with it I had forgotten hemalurgy didnt affect him, though he did have the steel sight, right? I could be wrong again though if it he did have it then maybe they could find a way to do it, they are lacking in knowledge of how the powers and investiture work. Like this WoB shows Anyways, since i dont know a lot of things bout of cognitive shadows, i'll trust you I feel like if an aluminium helmet can prevent you from being controlled with hemalurgy becoming widely known and aluminium becoming easy to get and cheap, we are probably get a lot more of compounding, mistborns, twinborns, full feruchemists, and maybe even some fullborns in the next few eras. Probably organizations like the Set would abuse hemalurgy. Alright, thanks for letting me know!
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(This does contain spoilers for all of mistborn) I dont think we know of a way to gain feruchemical powers other than being born with them or through use of hemalurgy, so unless Brandon shows how to, i doubt Hoid will ever become a fullborn since he tries to avoid hemalurgic spikes. Sazed could theoretically give up Harmony though we know of only one person who ever gave up a shard, which was Vin in the well of ascension with Ruin, and she didnt even fully absorb the power at the moment. Sazed has two shards, so he Is very restricted, and i'm not sure how possible it Is for him to give up Harmony. Marsh could very well become a fullborn through hemalurgy, though that would leave him very susceptible to however holds Harmony. Kelsier could probably become a fullborn through hemalurgy maybe? I dont know how cognitive shadows interact with different kinds of investiture magics, though i do know that Kelsier has the inquisitor sight in one eye, so he could also become a hemalurgic fullborn like Marsh. I also remember a theory that said that manipulating connection between yourself and another misting (which i think could be done through compounding a specific metal or perhaps through bondsmith powers) allowed you to use their powers while the connection lasted If anything, i think we are going to see a hemalurgic fullborn since it will become more widely known as the eras pass or perhaps through unsealed metalminds. Though with so much time passing one could perfectly be born naturally.
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I think that in order to avoid what happened in Alashwa/Ashyn, Honor decided not to go all out against Odium. We know that Tanavast loves Kor and that they had a plan of what they wanted to do, so i think that with the radiants and heralds, they both used some of the power they were allowed. Basically using the same amount of power each one was allowed to use but together. (Perhaps to avoid burning Roshar) So when Honor sees the Unmade, he decided to invest more the heralds, giving them more power while still not going against the agreement with Rayse since he never have them the maximum amount of power he could have. Or thats what i can think of this, please correct me if i'm wrong with something
