JasnahShouldBeVegan

Relax dude it’s just for funzies I’m open to Retrivangian too if that helps??

I think Basic training is a limiting factor, but I agree that there are other (maybe more important) limiting factors in getting his army in shape. In my opinion it is still possible to improve other aspects of training via the spiritual realm boot camp. Remember, Taravangian did manage to send the entire Karbranth to the spirit realm. All Tarabution needs to do is get some war leaders that are loyal to him (like the Blackthorn) and work with them to set up some sort of spiritual realm boot camp, he just needs to fake another tidal wave or something to cover up sending a military school and barracks to the spiritual realm. This should only take a day or so. Then Tarabution can send a whole bunch of people there covertly, maybe send lots of smaller groups to begin with, Then send the whole lot of them to get them working as an army. Considering Big-T aged Gav to adulthood in a few hours this whole process shouldn’t take that long and he probably doesn’t need to give too much attention (the Blackthorn will get that army in tip top shape). Even if the time dilation makes it take longer 10 years should be plenty of time. If I were in Big-T’s highly invested shoes this would be my plan… There is a larger issue here in my opinion… I really enjoyed Wind and Truth, however, the magic system is becoming more and more “soft” (the shards powers are unclear, confusing and can easily create inconsistencies). Originally I was attracted to Brandon Sanderson’s books because of the Hard magic systems, his magic rules were simple, and this was good because it made sense, the way the magic users interacted with the world made sense. There’s nothing worse than having a story where all of a sudden the wizard that was travelling with the party does a super powerful fire magic blast out of the blue and destroys a whole army of baddies. And I think “where did that come from? Why doesn’t he just do that all the time? Why do the good guys even make armies? Why not just have that wizard guy win everything??”

I’m surprised by all the Moash hate, by this I mean I’m surprised that people don’t find him to be an entertaining character, obviously everyone hates Moash as a person. I don’t mind having a character that’s almost a meme. He has his schtick where he: fly’s in, kills someone awesome in a dishonourable way, does a bridge 4 salute, and then leaves when things start to get tricky for him. Haha. He’s just so easy to hate. And what makes it worse is that he thinks he’s doing good (the philosophy behind his actions is so dumb which makes it even more frustrating). Just to make it even worse he is a massive traitor. Not every villain needs to be a well developed evil mastermind that you almost agree with…

Even if they are slightly worse fighters than they would have been if they trained in the physical realm it doesn’t mean that it is not still of value to give them time to train in the spiritual realm. The fact that it may not be sustainable to train them in the spirit is not clear to me, shards are supposed to be near omnipotent? The thing about other shards messing with the spirit realm Roshar training camp is a good point. But you could say that other shards could just mess with his preparation anywhere in any way? Maybe I’m not understanding the powers and limitations on shards?

So the problem that Taravangian has with not having his armies ready to invade the Cosmere is probably a plot hole. We know that he was able to train up Gav into a pretty awesome warrior in the spirit realm and age him extremely quickly. We also know that he was able to send Karbranth to the spirit realm entirely. So why not send the majority of Roshar that he won during the 10 days to the spirit realm and train them up very quickly? What rule is stopping him? Is it just simply because he was king of Karbranth when he was human that allowed him to send Karbranth to the spirit realm and not the rest of Roshar?