Ascended Grubberfly

2 hours ago, NameIess said:

@Verdance

Verdance had to leave the Shard sadly, I don’t know if their characters were passed on.

2 hours ago, NameIess said:

The Witherlord returned to himself. His form was indistinct, a mass of darkness covering what had once been a green field of grass, tendrils of shadow spiraling outward, drifting in the cold wind. In his... distraction, the field had withered and decayed. As his consciousness strengthened, he felt the entirety of the planet, knew it had been destroyed during his slumber.

The Witherlord sighed. I was afraid this would happen. He thought. The curse of the Antagonist. He was now true Evil. He had the power and the will to dominate and destroy the Thread. And yet... could his Author handle the strain? In taking up this role, the man who had once been Malevolence had centralized the Thread around him. More dangerously, around his Author. This brought the danger of burning out, a danger his Author knew well and had seen in others. He'd taken precautions, refusing to split his presence, appointing a Dragon and attempting to work through servants. And yet...

I will need to be more careful. Malev-the Witherlord, thought. I must be pragmatic. I need more servants to empower, in order to share the burden of antagonizing the heroes of this Thread and working towards my grand plan. Fog has been as inactive as I... perhaps I should revoke her status and grant it to another, more deserving. Still, who can I trust? Even she is not fully trustworthy. Who else would agree with my goals enough to to put themselves in my power?

He turned from these thoughts and on to other matters. Events in the Thread had progressed, but nothing seemed overly worrying... Except a Plotblade that had gained sentience? Interesting. And he would need to do something about Inkwell. Yes, his plans must continue. He would bring this Thread to its knees.

With a surge of will, the Witherlord reformed his body. Darkness pulled inward, forming into the shape of a man covered in black flames, with glowing violet pits for eyes. He reached forward and pulled his Blade, Malevolence, from the ground before him. It was time to continue his work.

The orb winked into existence next to the Witherlord. It had drifted in the Void for a time, exhausted after it had tried to open a way into Heaven.

Hey! I see you regained consciousness! The ball bounced eagerly. Is there a way I can help this time? I almost made a path into Heaven, but it seems my time with you has made me lean more Evil than Neutral.

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Skylight wandered in the Woods. He had spent so long alone, he wondered who was left. “9/10? Was that your name? You there?”

Was anyone left? Did anyone care?

Did the Voice deserve to be in control?

1 hour ago, GG0z said:

True. If they don't call it "the search for more money," then they are doing it wrong

Yes, but counter point: what if that is the low hanging fruit?

5 hours ago, Cephandrious Maxtori said:

It is not the Voluptuous Voidbringer Ishi

Nor is it him

Not the splendid Sylphrena

or the adorable Adolin

SHALLAN! SHALLAN! SHALLAN!

but alas, it is not her

1. This character is first mentioned in The Way of Kings

2. This character is highly invested

Nale?

What’s your pfp on Discord? Khriss?

You teach math, right? Do you have a funny story from the classroom?

On 6/17/2026 at 3:21 PM, CadCom said:

I figure I'll resurrect this post, which I like to do every time I return to the site after a long Haitus. It's been like 2 years since I was last here. Any new questions for me? (Even though most people don't know me because of my absence)

 

Would you like one of Ironeyes’s favorite cookies?

Whats your pfp?

What’s a funny story from your time on the Shard?

COME ON HOW DID I MISS THIS?! I literally posted here a while ago too.

12 hours ago, Hmmm lies said:

I watched the finale with my girlfriend at the theatre, did anyone else? (with or without a girlfriend)

I also saw it in theaters, but I do not have a girlfriend. 
I’m honestly so glad I got to watch it in theaters it was so cool on the big screen.

How many people were in your theater? My group had the whole thing to ourselves until about halfway when two people walked in.

I’m wearing my “I am a Stick” shirt right now as it turns out!

I am not really excited for most new movies because they are likely the 5th rerun, and I just want something new and exciting.

3 hours ago, GG0z said:

except Spaceballs two

This would be so much fun, but I worry that it’s not because people want it but because higher ups in a company want to print money and they are finding new bottoms of the barrel to scrape.

@PanLin someone else posted before I edited my post, so I’m gonna make a new one for quoting convenience.

9 hours ago, PanLin said:

• Aona saw prioritising Connection to others and to ideals over one's own personal desires, so her chunk became Devotion
• Skai saw the enforcement of Connection above all else, an empire with him at its head to ensure order: Dominion
• Koravellium (a dragon who was used to looking after mortals) saw individuals as potential pieces of a spiritual whole that need careful pruning to better make them fit: Cultivation
• Tanavast saw oaths and promises as tools to bind people to each other for structure and strength: Honor

I doubt this was how the Shardic Intents came to be, because we know that Ati took up Ruin so that no one else had to. The Intents changed over time, but they had an initial starting point unrelated to the first Vessel.

9 hours ago, PanLin said:

Just as the Dawnshards represent the four 'core' aspects of the Cosmere, I believe the four fundamental forces manifest in the Cosmere as another set of four realmatic attributes, ones that every conscious being has:

• Investiture
• Perception
• Intent
• Resonance

So you are finding four forces in the Cosmere that manifest as Surges? Makes sense, but I disagree with two or three of these.

I’m unclear on what you mean by investiture, could you clarify how that is a force?

Perception makes total sense, no comments.

Intent feels more like an individual aspect rather than a Cosmere wide force.

Resonance is more a by product of two tones mixing than a force as well.

9 hours ago, PanLin said:

contents

 

	Investiture	Perception	Intent	Resonance
Identity	Amplification	Distillation	Conservation	Augmentation
Entropy	Dissolution	Submission	Destabilisation	Agitation
Fortune	Liberation	Definition	Synthesis	Intercession
Connection	Fusion	Progression	Imposition

As for the aspects (vertical column) I think you are aiming for the subjects of forces. This list works slightly better, but still missing the mark.

Identity works, no complaints.

Entropy, no idea how this idea applies, if you have a thought process I would love to hear it.

Fortune I don’t know enough about, this may be a force or something else.

Connection works, no complaints.

My list would be:

Attributes/forces: Perception, maybe Investiture, Fortune might fit, Command may fall under Intent but it could work here. Or Intent works in the first place.

Aspects: Connection, Identity, maybe Intent, I’m drawing a blank for the fourth.

9 hours ago, PanLin said:

If you apply Connection to Resonance, that means you synchronise distinct entities and bind them together (Adhesion)

A resonance is not a synchronization. Musically, it is when two notes create a phantom note that you hear but doesn’t really exist, similar to a Windrunner’s reverse Lashing.

9 hours ago, PanLin said:

If you apply Connection to Perception, that means you align how two related entities perceive each other (Progression, ie: modifying the physical self to better align with the cognitive self)

I imagine that Gravitation works in this way, with my list Progression would be  maybe Identity and Perception.

9 hours ago, PanLin said:

It's actually quite straightforward to map the forces to these attributes (almost as if it were intentional ). Some of the links may seem a bit abstract, until you remember that the forces describe physical phenomena, whereas the aspects describe spiritual ones.

• Gravity warps spacetime and determines the distribution and effect of mass: Investiture
• EM governs information and energy transfer: Perception
• Strong Nuclear defines what stuff is: Intent
• Weak Nuclear describes how stuff interacts and transitions between states: Resonance

 

Yolish Surge	Force	Governs	Spiritual aspect
Macrokinesis	Gravity	mass attraction, orbital dynamics, spacetime manipulation	Investiture
Macrokinesis	Gravity	mass attraction, orbital dynamics, spacetime manipulation	Investiture
Topokinesis	Gravity	spatial translation, wormholes, realm traversal	Investiture
Topokinesis	Gravity	spatial translation, wormholes, realm traversal	Investiture
Photokinesis	EM	EM radiation, information transfer, energy transfer	Perception
Photokinesis	EM	EM radiation, information transfer, energy transfer	Perception
Autokinesis	EM	contact mechanics, surface tension, friction coefficients	Perception
Autokinesis	EM	contact mechanics, surface tension, friction coefficients	Perception
Microkinesis	Strong nuclear	internal configuration, plastic deformation, structural continuity	Intent
Microkinesis	Strong nuclear	internal configuration, plastic deformation, structural continuity	Intent
Morphokinesis	Strong nuclear	transmutation, state change, energy / matter / investiture conversion	Intent
Morphokinesis	Strong nuclear	transmutation, state change, energy / matter / investiture conversion	Intent
Horikinesis	Weak nuclear	strain threshold, fracture mechanics, brittleness / ductility	Resonance
Dynamokinesis	Weak nuclear	tensile stress, surface tension, mechanical strain	Resonance
Dynamokinesis	Weak nuclear	tensile stress, surface tension, mechanical strain	Resonance
Horikinesis	Weak nuclear	strain threshold, fracture mechanics, brittleness / ductility

I don’t understand how you mapped the forces to the Attributes, could you explain them to my feeble mind?

55 minutes ago, JohnTMS said:

EXIST looks a lot like the 1st law of Thermodynamics.
CHANGE looks a lot like the 2nd law of Thermodynamics.

The 3rd and 4th then, may be physical manifestations of the remaining 2 laws.

I've gone my own places with that as a music guy, but that's for its own thing that has nothing to do with the surges, I should probably get to working on getting it up on here though.

I look forward to this, I think Khriss said the Dawnshards were the primal Commands Adonalsium used in the creation of the Cosmere, so it makes sense that they represent the four laws.

The Main Character Kaladin?

I can’t truly argue with Surge assignments, but I want to discuss attributes and forces.

58 minutes ago, PanLin said:

Just as the Dawnshards represent the four 'core' aspects of the Cosmere, I believe the four fundamental forces manifest in the Cosmere as another set of four realmatic attributes, ones that every conscious being has:

• Investiture
• Perception
• Intent
• Resonance

Why is resonance a force? A Resonance is the result of the Tones of two or more Shards interacting. It is less a force and more a by product imo. 
I would like to say more but have to run, I will edit and ping you with my thoughts later.

31 minutes ago, GG0z said:

Still morning.  Late, but still

Same for me.

18 minutes ago, PanLin said:

The process of making, for example, Stormlight, is to literally cut the Investiture off from its Shardic source and forcibly impose the opposite Intent on it.

I understood this process of overwriting the tone, not the Intent. I guess I had it wrong if the Coppermind has it listed the other way. Thanks!

If Investiture has Intent, what happens to it once the polarity has been switched? Would anti-Honor want to break oaths? 

What do you guys think?

I figured your day couldn’t get any worse.

Why’d you give me Inquisitor tattoos in my sleep?

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im fine with no zero.

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Wait, how do you have a shield? Does Chaos have one, and what about the Coppermind people?

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10 minutes ago, Through the living Wahr said:

Not Starling

Nor the Dakwara

Not the Herald of Kings Either

Clues:

1. Highly Invested

2. Doesnt like Hoid

 

Rayse?

1 minute ago, Eluvianii said:

Ending good. And that's all I'm legally allowed to say I guess.

I mean, you can say more, but I’m a paranoid guy so I ere on the side of caution.

40 minutes ago, Akimikoisthecutest said:

I am sooooo excited for episode 9!

I’m too scared of accidentally tainting your first viewing with my thoughts, so I’m just gonna like your post.

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I could have sworn this already exists, but since episode 9 came out I figure it’s a good idea to make this thread for enjoyers.

If anyone else actually posts here, please spoiler any ep 9 stuff until it premieres on YouTube, as spoilers are dumb and ruin the show.

7 hours ago, corneeme said:

I shall participate in the next Through The Living March

And another one is added! Welcome, fellow sycophant of Glass!

7 hours ago, corneeme said:

I do not have an offering, but I would do a ritual sacrifice if asked

We anticipate thy willing sacrifice!

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