CosmereMaths

I used to think the summoning of the everstorm by the listeners started the desolation, but was confused since Taln returns before that. I think we still don’t know how fused returns before the everstorm.

Here’s a quote from Edgedancer Chapter 1: “She set her jaw and stood up. Wyndle was still talking, but she ignored him, instead taking off across the deserted field, running as fast as she could, startling grass. She reached the top of a small hill, then jumped and coated her feet with power. She started slipping immediately. The air. The air she pushed against when moving was holding her back. Lift hiss then coated her entire self in power. She sliced through the wind, turning sideways as she skidded down the side of the hill. Air slid off her, as if it couldn’t find her. Even the sunlight seemed to melt of her skin. She was between places, here but not. No air, no ground. Just pure motion, so fast that she reached grass before it had time to pull away, it’s touch brushed aside by her power.”

Like most of the surges, friction isn’t a real force. It only exists on the macro scale as an extrapolation of the electro magnetic force. Even if you covered someone in oil they wouldn’t slide perfectly over a surface. I only say abrasion surgebinders can eliminate air resistance because we’ve seen Lift do it on multiple occasions. Most notably the battle of Thaylen field we see Lift pass perfectly through air

In this post I’m gonna talk a little about the math of flying around Roshar. Firstly from Khriss’s annotation in arcanum unbounded “Roshar (the planet) is .7 cosmere standard in gravitation and .9 in size”. I’m going to assume that “cosmere standard” is Earth (This also means Roshar is less dense than earth as a version of Earth at .9 size would have .93 Earth gravity). Additionally, the length of Roshar (the continent) is estimated at about 4000 miles wide and half as tall. I can’t tell how dense the atmosphere is compared to Earth but I would guess it less but since I don’t have much to go off off I will use earth atmospheric density. Human beings fall on Earth with a terminal velocity of about 120 mph or 54 m/s which they reach in 12 seconds of free fall. Atmospheric resistance is a function of speed cubed which means at .7 gravity with normal air density terminal velocity would fall to 107 mph or 48 m/s. According to these numbers, Kaladin should be able to fall from Natanatan to Shinovar in 37 hours using a single lashing. A double lashing is not much better as then he would fly at 134 mph and make the trip in 29 hours. In fact if Kaladin is concerned with conserving stormlight he should actually fall at less than a full lashing. All of this changes when we add Abrasion to the equation. When Lift becomes awesome she has been seen to not only remove sliding friction but air resistance as well as everything brushes around her. So assuming a Windrunner or Skybreaker pair up with an Edgedancer or Dustbringer, then they can fall much farther. In fact with a single lashing completely frictionless Kaladin and Lift can fall from Natanatan to Shinovar in 22 minutes. Because distance would now function as a square of time traveling instead of linear with terminal velocity. This seems like a huge deal that the radiants should be taking advantage of. Side note: Kaladin at a double lashing can reach light speed in space in 8 months

I also hold the belief which may not be true that all of the Heralds but Taln are on Roshar at the start of Way of Kings. If one of the Heralds were to have been killed and returned to Braize, then they would likely still be there until when Taln returns or they would have started a desolation earlier. That is unless what Ishar did to the oathpact allowed the Heralds to leave Braize without starting a desolation.

We know since the prologue of WoK that the heralds broke the oathpact and abandoned Taln in braize as the sole bearer of the oathpact. That was 4 thousand years ago and until Moash kills Jezrien for good, we don’t know if any of the heralds have been “killed” which would send them back to braize. Is it plausible that any of them have died gone back to braize and then returned to roshar without affecting the oathpact or interacting with Taln? Do you guys think the heralds go to braize when they die now, and do y’all think they were sent to braize when they died before the oathpact or was the oathpact the only things connecting them to braize? Edit: I have answered my own question or at least found some evidence: From Oathbringer Chapter 38: “ ‘HE FINALLY BROKE’ the storm father said. ‘HE HAS JOINED THE NINE WHO STILL LIVE. IN THESE MILLENNIA NONE HAVE EVER DIED AND RETURNED TO DAMNATION’”

I’m pretty sure the different sized gemstones work more like levers where the smaller gemstone travels 5 times farther than the larger distance any time a force is applied

Is it possible Dai-Gonarthis had this ability before the unmaking. I’ve always viewed the unmaking as similar to Sja-Anat’s “enlightening”. It seems that enlightened spren are now a combination of Honor, Cultivation, and Odium rather than just honor and cultivation but I don’t know if the unmade are purely odium at this point. However this seems likely as odium likes to act through the unmade (he used the thrill to try and corrupt Dalinar)

So I was wondering about the formation of new types of spren as well as the existing types. I believe it is Hesina in a Kaladin flashback who says that everything has a spren, so I’m curious about a couple things: do new spren form when new ideas are formed. Say for example musicspren exist but then someone invents jazz on roshar, do jazzspren form? With Navanis new fabrials and airship is their an airship spren now and a spren for each of her fabrials. If Tashikk has a revolution could we see the existence of democracyspren or communismspren. Finally, do you think spren have spren. Mainly does the sprenspren exist, the spren of spren, and then obviously there creates a loop where we could see the existence of anticipationsprenspren and so forth with each spren having a spren and continuing. I’m curious to hear peoples thoughts on this I’ve wondered ever since reading WoK but this is my first ever 17thShard post.