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  1. Unsealed Metalminds have Nicrosil work like Feruchemical Copper. Power is lent, used, returned in whole* to the metalmind. (Minus natural memory degradation for Copper’s case.) The Bands of Mourning do end up mysteriously drained, but whether that is because of a property of Unsealed Metalminds or not is unclear, especially since other Unsealed Nicrosilminds keep functioning just fine.

    Anyway, a question. Based on gut feeling, does Nicrosil Feruchemy behave like Feruchemical Copper (and maybe Bendalloy, Brass, and Cadmium, and very maybe Bronze and Steel) or does it behave like other Feruchemical metals, where storage does not ‘permanently’ remove the stored attribute, which recovers after storing has been ceased, like Feruchemical Iron, Tin, and Pewter?

    Author words have said that Nicrosil in Unsealed Metalminds is ‘not exactly’ how a Nicrosil Ferring would would their metal, with medallions being ‘more restrictive’. Personally, it feels odd to me for a Ferring’s use of Nicrosil to be a semi-permanent removal, because it feels to me that other Feruchemical metals don’t behave the same. Copper would, of course, but memories are, in short, very weird and aren’t as hard coded into sDNA as, say, Physical Strength is. A new question arises, then. Why would storing Physical Strength in a Pewtermind not permanently remove strength, but storing an Allomantic Ability in a Nicrosilmind permanently remove that ability? They are both encoded in sDNA (as Hemalurgy removes pieces of sDNA, and Hemalurgy can steal both strength and Allomanticy), so why behave differently, hypothetically?

    Hemalurgic Copper steals ‘mental fortitude, memory, and intelligence,’ but I am uncertain if this means memories—the things stored in Copperminds—or the ability to memorize and hold on to memories. The Kandra Blessing of Presence gives a sharp memory, from reviewing the Coppermind, so that could suggest that Hemalurgic Copper does the latter.

    If it was the former, then memories would be some kind of sDNA for Hemalurgy to steal, which I don’t think is supported, really, because of other properties (like Strength) stolen by Hemalurgy are not permanently lost when stored Feruchemically like memories in Copperminds are. Spiritual Ideal related stuff. It could be that, since calories, oxygen, and memories are heavily transient properties, they are not accounted for by the Spiritual Ideal and do not ‘regenerate’ after a Feruchemist stores them, but are permanently kept when tapped, but are once again subject to being lost by human energy and oxygen consumption, and imperfect mental storage.

    But who knows man I am rambling, it could very easily be that Feruchemical Nicrosil stores Investitures permanently and my own impressions are worthless.

    just give me access to the magic wiki, brandon, i need to know

    1. KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren

      KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren

      I don't think it stores permanently, else [BoM]

      Spoiler

      both Wax and Marasi would still be Mistborn

       

    2. ChickenBonanza

      ChickenBonanza

      But one must also consider that that is with the use of an Unsealed Metalmind, which works on the borrow, use, return model, so I don’t think we can derive definite answers from it, unfortunately

      (Though, I now realize multiple weeks later that I have assumed that return is automatic, in touch cases. So that is, actually, a thing make note of. With the note that Unsealed Metalminds will not necessarily provide the exact effects we would see from a Feruchemist utilizing Nicrosil.)

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