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I'm pretty interested to see what dusk goes to do. Could he perhaps seek a neutral third party, like the elantrians or Nalthis folk? Provided either of them haven't picked a side. I'd love to find out there was a third party trying to resist the two opposing forces, or a band of resistance built up of different planets/people's. This reading sure gives you a lot to think about

I've been giving Adolin and Maya some thought recently, and I was wondering what would be involved in reviving her.

Bit of a wild theory but something I think could be quite cool. What if Adolin is slowly progressing through his oaths without actually swearing the ideals. Like he is exemplifying everything he needs to be to a point where he could swear the oaths in quick succession like the way Dalinar spoke the first and second quite quickly? 

What if Maya and her previous radiant were already of the fifth ideal and Adolin needs to reach that level in order to restore her? 

Seems Adolin is a great pillar of strength to a lot of people and seems to be on his way to something amazing, I would love see the restoration of Maya catapult him to the upper echelons of radiance at a pivotal moment.

Could've been in an earlier book, but I assumed he left to find out what he good, then just returned in warform? I didn't put a great deal of thought in to it at the time, as I didn't think it was anything of significance. Who knows though. Any idea if he gets a view point book?

I just finished the book last night and my mind has been reeling ever since. As a whole it was pretty good, I think there were some sluggish parts of the book, but overall the highs really got me hyped.

- as always, Adolin continues to shine, whatever is going on with him and Maya is going to be amazing to see. If she gets revived, Adolin as an amazing duelist with the grace of an edgedancer would be quite the spectacle.

- I was fairly happy this formless creature has been ousted and hopefully put to bed. I find it a bit hard to read about Shallans struggles at times, I know people go through this in real life and I can appreciate that it would be difficult, but I feel it dragged on a bit for my liking.

- I am hoping that Leshwi finds out what happened to her honorspren friend Riah, I hope Syl could maybe help her find out, as she may be the only one who knew her.

- Kaladin story arc. Wow, from Tefts death to his vision with Tien, I gotta say I cried for a while. Some raw emotions came flying at me. I was worried for a hot second when Venli seen these murderous eyes during the Lezian fight scene, I thought we lost him for a sec, and how he killed Lezian was sheer brutality!

- Dalinars discovery of the dead spren from Ishars hands leaves me with so much questions, not to mention this contract with Odium in 10 days time no less. It seems like we are being set up for disaster.

- Raboniel... I really enjoyed this character, she had some amazing moments but showed how heartless she could also be when trying to accomplish her goals. Like a barbwire garrotte wrapped in velvet.

- Wit, that epilogue was either a well calculated risk or the most likely, a huge oversight on his behalf with potentially devastating long term consequences. 

All in all, the ending in typical sanderlanche fashion blew me away. At the same time, I have been left with an overall sense of dread going into book 5. There seems to be a lot that could go wrong!!! 

RIP Teft, Phendorana, Raboniel, Veil and even poor Rayse

Something else crossed my mind last night in bed. Could just be clutching at straws due to the fact I am worried about wit possibly losing his memories.

It seems T/Odium destroyed something on his personage that sounds like a metal mind but of the Nalthis variety using breaths etc.

After Wits speech to Jasnah earlier in the book when talking about the card game, Wit says he never bets everything he has. It got me thinking whether or not he could have other memories stored? Then it occured to me, Kaladin got Wits flute back a little earlier.

So, could it be that the flute finds its way back to Wit and thus restoring his memories, even partially? And are there any other mementos Wit has given out that we know of?

On 20/11/2020 at 8:48 PM, Jaconis said:

My initial reaction was very similar and thus annoyed/scared me. Rereading the entire scene makes me feel like Wit expected this, or at least something like this. 

His little show literally right before his interaction with Odium is about fooling people by making them focus on one thing while you do another. What was the point of all that if not to foreshadow that this was a plan by Wit to fool Odium. 

Agreed, honestly it freaked me out for a second, if he has lost a vast amount of memories, or worse, if Odium now has access to what he stole it could give him a vast amount of cosmere knowledge.

Then I reread and started to think it was planned all along, hence the explanation of the trick, and I am wondering if he could've possibly seeded some misinformation amongst the memories (if Odium actually has access to them now).

I just finished the book 20 minutes ago and either way I am worried about the implications, it's going to feel like an eternity to book 5!!

Rhythm of War can't come quick enough! Dawnshard was amazing, some sort of heightening achieved by Rysn. Sleepless info dump. Some mystery surrounding Rock and the bow of hours?

Gotta say, I know the Lopen has some haters out there, but his realisation that he isn't very well received had me tearing up. Poor guy just wants to cheer people up. 

I also picture Rua as some miniature mute Genie from Aladdin when he's fooling around, waving with multiple arms etc haha

This post really jumped out at me. I have been wondering about this increasingly for the last couple of weeks, but after today's chapter I really love the idea of relationships between the Parshendi and Humans. 

I'm not saying Kaleshwi will necessarily be a thing, but I really loved their interactions in this chapter. I feel the have very similar views and both have a high regard for honour. I'm starting to wonder will they both find some common ground and maybe call a truce, even take a step towards peace and undermining Odium?!

Really excited for next week! And the rest of the book for that matter!

On 25/06/2020 at 3:18 AM, R J said:

My vote goes to those three Orders as well: Skybreakers, Dustbringers, Elsecallers. Their Surges do seem terrifying. Dustbringers probably have the edge in destructive potential, that's what they're known for, but we haven't really seen them go ham crazy yet. Soulcasting & Division are just really good offensively.

I think Lightweavers could become just as destructive by using Illumination to attack instead of casting illusions.

Windrunners' Adhesion can do a lot more than stick people together, it could be used to manipulate atmospheric pressure.

At the end of OB didn't it suggest Shallans illusions had resistance when hit? If that's the case, then what you said about attack would be insane. Maybe it's the soulcasting hybrid that could help.

Lightweaving could help a great deal with the regular grunts of the enemy, rather than full voidbringers(but not really voidbringers ;))

5 minutes ago, Halyo_Alex said:

Even if she could have done that, I feel like it's getting a bit cheap at this point; not for shallan specifically, but Jasnah and Szeth have both "died" and come back, a third, with someone so important and emotionally impactful, would surely be getting tiring to at least some readers.

I thought that about Jasnah, but totally forgot about Szeth. Yea, that would kinda suck if that was the case

I am pretty sure this is not the case, but I am wondering has anyone else thought the same?

During the Kholinar excursion, Shallan had drawn a picture of Elhokar whilst sitting in the tailors shop. She depicted him as far as I remember bent over, with his chin up, defiant. 

When Moash sticks him like a pig later on, he was kind of down in a similar pose. I didn't realise the similarity until my next read through, then spent the next while seeing if there was anyway this could've been a lightweaving from Shallan.

I couldn't think of any way this was possible based on her abilities at the time, unless, as she manages to give her illusions substance like she achieves later on. It doesn't answer everything, but did it cross anyone's mind?

Honestly, when I binge read any series I have quite vivid dreams of said books.

Just re-read all 3 stormlight books in anticipation of RoW in two weeks. This might seem long to some, but it's a solid bit of reading to me. Was having some great windrunner dreams, but somehow I always fly to slow, it annoys me so much! 

Before that I had Red Rising dreams as a howler, was fantastic.

49 minutes ago, Nathrangking said:

Division+Transformation+Elsecalling is a dangerous combination. Popping from one location to another with the ability to shred things on the atomic level and the ability to use transformation forget gravitation those three makes one an absolute wrecking crew and that is without gravitation.

That's sooo metal!

19 minutes ago, Nathrangking said:

Division+Transformation+Elsecalling is a dangerous combination. Popping from one location to another with the ability to shred things on the atomic level and the ability to use transformation forget gravitation those three makes one an absolute wrecking crew and that is without gravitation.

Some solid beans right here

1 hour ago, hoiditthroughthegrapevine said:

We know that Szeth practiced with more of the honor blades than just Jezrien's, and that for his 4th ideal he picked a Crusade to cleanse the Shin homelands, where the majority of the honorblades still reside. So it's a possibility that in addition to being a skybreaker with access to the surges of gravitation and division, he could pick up an honor blade (or even multiple honorblades).

I personally think it would be awesome if he picked up Vedel's honorblade, giving him the surges of friction and progression. 

With friction and gravitation you would have the fastest flying radiant ever, and with suitable quantities of Stormlight the surge of progression would help offset the downsides of wielding Nightblood.

I'm hoping in book 4 we get to see more of the Shin!

I hope we find out a bit more about the shin. In my mind's eye shinovar seems the closest to normal life on earth. From what I remember they had a solid lock down on blades, and didn't they actively seek retrieving shards(dead Spren included).

Also, Szeth believes he is truthless, one of a kind, couldn't possibly imagine anyone else wielding surges, so I don't think he has access to the rest.

That friction and grav combo you are talking about sounds awesome haha! And personally, I think Nightblood and Szeth make a killer couple!

Hello, would you like to destroy some evil today?

2 hours ago, Use the Falchion said:

I firmly believe we'll see this some day. 

Elsecaller with the surge of Division is a frightening thought. 

On a more mundane note, I think Hoid could probably hack identity/based magic pretty well if he had Ishar's Honorblade (and it's the easiest way to get those surges without becoming a dual Radiant, something Hoid will probably be particularly opposed to...unless...hmm...). 

 

Edit: a Windrunner with access to Transformation and Division. They could lash opponents to them, transform them into something that can combust easily, then lash them back at enemies before exploding them with division. 

That edit sounds lit haha, what in damnation

Apologies if this has been covered. Just fantasising about a radiant that also wields an honour blade. If each order had access to two differing surges, what kind of mind boggling things could we expect?!?

All theories welcome

24 minutes ago, Nathrangking said:

 

More specifically this:

Questioner

Can we expect a Cosmere Avengers?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes and no. You can expect crossovers between the planets. My goal is not an Avengers-style, one character that you... like, if it were a true Cosmere Avengers it would be like, "Oh, we're going to have this character from this series, this character from this series," that's not what I'm going for. I'm going for more of a clash between the cultures and worlds. There will definitely be characters that you know that end up involved in that. But it's not, I'm not shooting for an Avengers-style thing, I'm shooting for more... It's more like imagine Star Trek, and retrograde back to all of the stories you're telling on the separate planets before they meet each other. Less Avengers, more "We're going to have an intergalactic... thing, going on." These are all of the origins of the cultures and peoples that are going to be involved in that. And since there are some immortals around, you will see people.

Barnes & Noble B-Fest 2016 (June 11, 2016)

Excellent, that's exactly what I was looking for, cheers!

I was really curious about whether the plan for the cosmere would come to a head at some point? I have read some things in the past with regards to this, and I believe from what I remember Mistborn Era 4 was to be the final showdown so to speak. That was several years old, so I am unsure if there have been any changes.

Are there any threads that discuss any potential crossovers, or what's in the future for the cosmere?

9 hours ago, Hentient said:

I just want a wolf pelt

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Thistle was a howler who switched sides and became a bone rider... might have gotten her name wrong but yea.

Actually funny story with pax (you might know it). For that scene Pierce didn’t know who he wanted to die so he put everyone’s name in a hat and randomly picked. (He got sevro first but redrew cause Sevro is to awesome to die) 

 

I know, the wolf pelt is the mark of a howler.

3 minutes ago, Hentient said:

As fans we are honorary Howlers 

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Yea, he was kinda like Thistle, but when it came down to it Thistle knew she was wrong. My brother loves Roque though because he was *Ahem* Following his own set of morals adn protecting his people, just like Darrow. The sad thing is, he knew that the society would treat him like trash, but he fought for them anyway.

 

I was having dreams I was a howler for a couple days, was pretty sweet!

15 minutes ago, Hentient said:

I love Red Rising! Sevro is Kind of my favorite character ever.

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Thoughts on Roque? he's a hot topic of debate with my family

 

Sevro is quite the boyo! The howlers in general are one of my favourite kind of squads. 

Like Matrims Dice said, Threnody jumps to my mind also just based on how twisted the world is, although the previous shard of that system was ambition, so I don't know if any other has taken up residence. 

Definition for threnody is pretty cool though, "A threnody is a wailing ode, song, hymn or poem of mourning composed or performed as a memorial to a dead person."

anguish after losing a loved one kinda fits

7 minutes ago, Karger said:

Given the virus I am not sure he will be touring at all.

Yea, I thought as much. Well hopefully some other time. It's actually pretty useful having a dedicated forum to tours and singings etc. Should be able to keep an eye out for any future excursions he may take

5 minutes ago, Karger said:

Welcome!

Why thank you