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Szeth won’t make it out of book five alive. He will save Lift who he is cultivating a friendship with and die in the process. Leaving Lift some serious serious guilt and sadness to deal with for 10 years before her book in book 6. All part of Cultivation’s plan

Let's say Vin did want to create a hemalurgic spike from TLR. Would it be a more powerful spike over the spike of a regular Misting? Also its a nice coincidence that bands in the Bands of Mourning was the tip of the spear.

Ok i’ll Accept that. They way the sailor spren were in awe of Kaladin I presumed something ‘Radianty’ was happening. May have been nothing to do with Shardplate or oaths. Kaladin has done weird powerful like when he protected people against the highstorm part one of OB

Wasn’t it just as Kaladin was thinking how he couldn’t save everyone. . . And Syl urging him to ‘say the words’ and saying that he is close to the 4th ideal a few chapters later? I could be wrong, I do need to reread. So they were just wind spren. Fair enough

What are the theories about the sparkling lights around Kaladin in Shadesmar when he was having his meaningful thoughts on the ship? He was almost about to get his plate then right?

Odium has had his eye on Dalinar for the past 30 years we think from reading his flash backs. Szeth is 34, maybe at about the same time, 30 years ago, she decided to cultivate a champion herself. Who better then someone who can train all 10 surges. Timeline wise it’s all quite neat. 7 years ago Szeth is named truthless and forced to leave Shinovar, just in time to kill Gavilar 1 year later(and we all know what he was doing to help Odium). Lift is young and Cultivation is said to be a Long term planner. Lift is going to be big in the back half for sure. But I think it an interesting twist is Szeth was a big part of cultivation’s plan in these first 5 books and I think it fits.

Szeth is described by Taravangian as ‘a work of art’. He could be a work of Cultivation, she could have sculpted him into what he is today. The Clipper’s one uses when cutting back a bush, to make it grow in a certain direction, so to speak.

On the knights radiant table, the orders associated with honor are at the top, windrunners, skybreakers etc. On the bottom the orders associated with Cultivation, edgedancers, lightweavers etc.

This wouldn’t be a surprise. Lift is obvious choice for Cultivation’s champion, a high spren is the a more simple less interesting(in my opinion) choice for the voice speaking to Szeth. Brandon is the master at making it look one way then it actually being something else. And then the surprise being there as clear as day all along.

Ok here is another link that might support my theory. We know that Cultivation is associated with art because the lightweavers are heavily of Cultivation... in Way of Kings the second interlude chapter title involving Szeth is called... ‘A Work of Art’. I believe it is when Szeth first meets up with Taravangian, who is being influenced by Cultivation! We know Brandon loves putting in meaningful chapter titles!

Yup. Time to put this theory to bed

Very true. Bah

The shattering of was 10,000ish years ago right? Honor died roughly 2000 years ago. Was he still able to copulate as a vessel? Or would the act have to have been done pre shattering?

Ok got it. My argument is falling away here .BUT you might be able to argue that Vin was influenced by Ruin if she had he earring back in at that point. I just like the idea that Marsh took the spear a rammed it into his body after the fact.

Is that true? I thought the sword rammed through the heart of a thug, splintered and accidentally spiked Spook and gave him pewter

Lift fits nicely as well. But, I think we will see the culmination of the shard champions storyline with the end of the first 5 books. Do we know if Lift will get her book in the back 5 and which one it will be? I presumed she would be the edgedancer novel.

Thank you RithmaMists99

It might be a bit of a stretch but there is one line in Oathbringer that i am trying to work out. . . Chapter 92 '"I knew a voice like yours once, sword-nimi." The whispers? "No. A single one, in my mind, when I was young"' We know that most 'whispers' in the Cosmere are a result of shardic intervention. Honor seems to be whispering to Dalinar("unite them") maybe Honor has been whispering to Szeth as well? I think Cultivation is a better candidate. Cultivation is fond on pruning. She pruned Dalinar's memories to allow for growth, maybe she has used Szeth to prune Roshar's leaders(he was hired by Taravangian who was influenced by Cultivation). Possibly going to be used to bring the Skybreaker's back on side? I don't know about either of these ideas. We know he is going to get book 5 so he is going to become a major character(at the moment i would say he medium sized character in terms of screen time). This is about this time i think Cultivation is going to make her play against Odium. I think we are going to get Szeth's back story along with a serious Cultivation plan linked in together. Might be a bit Farfetch'd! But you have to admit that line above is interesting!

Vin killed the Lord Ruler with a spear through the heart. "Then she raised the spear and rammed it directly into the Lord Ruler's heart." Two questions: 1- Has this spearhead been used as a hemalurgic spike by someone? 2- Would the power gained from the spike be stronger as the Lord Ruler's power was so strong? Apologies if this is a question answered long ago! Im new!

Hi everyone, I’m a new fan of Brandon Sanderson and fantasy in general, although LOTR was my childhood. I’m looking forward to getting involved in some dicussions and posing some questions that I’m hoping the mega brains I hear on the podcast or the general community can answer!