Chiberty

23 minutes ago, Parallax said:

Q. How close is the enslavement of the parshmen to the Recreance, timeline-wise? 

A. Um, fairly close, as timeline issues go, but still many decades.

Q. Did it play any kind of factor in the decision?

A. Absolutely. But we're not talking about it happening next year. But it was a factor, how about that?

That WoB doesn't even make any sense with the information we knew at the time. The recreance happening many decades after the parchment enslavement doesn't fit with the people at Feverstone Keep thinking that the Radiants were fighting demons on the front lines. I think this is just a case we ignore the WoB. Even without RoW, it just doesn't match the information in the books.

The only case the WoB might make sense is if it means that the parshmen being enslaved happened decades after the Recreance, the Recreance being a factor in the decision to enslave them. Though that might work, the WoB under that interpretation isn't really relevant here.

20 hours ago, Personification said:

In fairness, all lullabies are terrifying, even in the real world.

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And down will come Baby,

Cradle and all.

One idea I've always liked about the poem of Ista is that the one "taking the Dawnshard" is a sleepless. They crawled up the steps, and the steps are ten strides tall. Who would measure height in strides? 

8 hours ago, Chaos said:

Let's try to get that stuff that's not on Arcanum into Arcanum, @ChickenLiberty. Want to help with that?

Yeah, I can help with that. I just suggested #20 on Livestream 1, but I don't know if I formatted it correctly. I did notice that the audio clip that corresponds to that part only lasts for 12 seconds, but I couldn't edit that.

Everything we know about RoW... Here are a few things you didn't mention:

• Navani was the most enjoyable for him to write recently (Nov. 26)
• There is a scene where Dalinar is being flown to a different part of the world by non-Kaladin Windrunners
• Jasnah has a couple viewpoints - (transcribed below)
  Spoiler

  Brandon: Yeah, you don't get a lot of Jasnah in these [early?] books, unfortunately. There's a couple Jasnah viewpoints in the new book, so that's good. You'll get a little Jasnah. But you really aren't going to get a lot of Jasnah for a while.

   

• Rysn will not be a main character, but will have an interlude
• Group 2 climax is in Part 4, Group 3 climax is near the epilogue, and Group 1 climax is in the normal spot
• Scientist that was in Warbreaker will be in RoW, talking about some things he got wrong
• There wasn't room for Rock's narrative that would have been in his novella in RoW
• Brandon chose Bulgarian cover art that depicts Shallan and Adolin in Shadesmar
• The author of in-world Rhythm of War is not human
• There is a character moment in RoW that Brandon had planned from from the beginning as one of the two or three pillar scenes of the entire series, a moment like which we will not get again until SA 7 or 8

43 minutes ago, Dawnbearer said:

Unless the Mistborn Screenplay turns out anything like White Sand, I wasn't super impressed by that one

Have you read the prose version? It's a whole lot better. Definitely better than the GN.

12 minutes ago, Parallax said:

The oaths have issues, the idea that the order primarily responsible for law has personal oaths is a problem. For example here is the third ideal according to the Coppermind: "a specific oath to dedicate oneself to a greater truth, either a code or, sometimes, a person." Not only this isn't particularly relevant for what the order does, it in fact contradicts it ("a government of laws, not of men"). This is not fixed by replacing the person you dedicate yourself to from Nale to Dalinar. 

It was never said that the Skybreakers are "primarily responsible for law." They are responsible for keeping order--the "enforcers of the Knights Radiant," as Brandon called them. The third oath just has to be to follow something external to themselves, which gives them greater ability to be consistent in their judgements. It doesn't matter if it's a law, a person, or just a set of rules they find on the ground; any one of those allows consistency. 

12 minutes ago, Parallax said:

Then there is a broader issue that Brandon is confusing justice with law ...

In what way does he do this?

3 hours ago, Parallax said:

1. Disappointed that Brandon is messing up the Skybreakers. The Skybreaker oaths we know have issues and I was hoping that would be explained by corrupted spren and Nale being insane. 

The oaths themselves don't have issues (they just show who the Skybreakers are), and Brandon did explain that the current issues with the Skybreakers are because of Nale.

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Note that the current incarnation, led by the Herald Nale in his madness, is more rigid than the ancient order, which understood that the law was not perfect, but instead represented an ideal to try to reach over time.

@Paleo

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...there's a chance for you to win one of three complete sets of leatherbound editions of Brandon's books! 

The giveaway is only for one set of leatherbounds (minus Elantris), and the other two prizes are the 3 hardcover Stormlight books.

S̶h̶a̶l̶a̶s̶h̶'̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶B̶a̶t̶t̶a̶r̶'̶s̶ ̶H̶o̶n̶o̶r̶b̶l̶a̶d̶e̶s̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶s̶w̶a̶p̶p̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶p̶l̶a̶c̶e̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶i̶r̶c̶l̶e̶.̶

Worms…why'd it have to be worms?

Another thing that the Wandersail story is very similar to is Szeth's struggle the first two books. He kills other people because it is commanded of him, then later discovers that he should have never been made Truthless, then feeling the guilt from all of his murders.