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Honestly, I was just wondering how many Shards Alethkar had. I can't seem to find a number anywhere.
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On 7/6/2019 at 3:55 PM, NyxRo said:
- Elendel University in Shadows of Self, from Wayne’s POV: “The etched letters over the top proclaimed, in High Imperial, WASING THE ALWAYS OF WANTING OF KNOWING. Deep words.”
I love the irony that Spook's street slang eventually becomes known as High Imperial. It would be like going three hundred years into the future to discover that the new language of the learned was talking like Jar-Jar Binks.
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Perhaps all of this comes back to the hacking. If one ignores Paalm, then Trellium may only be allomantically/feruchemically/hemalurgically viable via hacking. Wait. Just remembered something. If Paalm needed a steel spike, for example, to steal Idishway(?)s Feruchemical speed, then didn't she have two spikes? One of steel or whatever else she was using, and one of Trellium? If so, that could explain the lack of glowing red eyes. Maybe it didn't count as hacking enough for that.
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1 minute ago, Karger said:
On Roshar? Maybe. Cognitive entities behave a bit differently in the system but Kelseir was bound to the Scadrail system and could not leave. Also I don't think he is realy designed for that kind of behavior.
Yeah, just thought it was funny that technically, in the right circumstances, you could bond Kelsier. Probably be kind of annoying to both of you though.
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Just now, Karger said:
Alternatively, it may have been the act of creating the Kandra/Mistwraith itself that counts as hacking. This makes sense. I am not sure what you mean by the other two.
Just random thoughts for the most part. First sentence was meant to convey that maybe using Trellium in Hemalurgy is the hacking, but that didn't happen with Paalm, so it's probably wrong. Last phrase is a convoluted way of trying to say that Trell might not be able to use Hemalurgy straight-up, so the hacking is using Trell's Investiture to power the Kandra spikes, if these Trellish Immortals even have any.
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Just now, Karger said:
Possible. But if you are going to use Trellium why bother hacking them?
It might be that Trellium was not meant to be used in any of the Metallic Arts. Alternatively, it may have been the act of creating the Kandra/Mistwraith itself that counts as hacking, because it's possible that it's not possible for Trell to use any of the Arts.
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17 hours ago, Karger said:
I kind of am feeling the other way around. Trell is likely not native to scadrial. Harmony showed Wax an invading force that he does not understand. The Set seems to work for Trell. Trell claims to want to rule multiple worlds. Why has no one mentioned or even hinted at the disappearance of other Kandra? Remember they are all on first name basis with each other. Why did the Set not have the Kandra they held captive spiked if they do so on a routine basis? They held them for quite some time. Why are these wired shapeshifters nothing like Kandra. Why do their eyes glow and why did Bleeder's not? If the Set has Kandra double agents then why is it a problem that Wax has the bands?
I'm not sure if this is 100% accurate or not, but I saw on another thread that usually 'hacked' magic has a red component to it. If so, that could explain the glowing red eyes. Kandra created using Trellium, but hacked somehow.
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On 7/18/2019 at 1:22 AM, Halyo_Alex said:
Wait.
...That reminds me of the Fused overtaking the modern Singer bodies. We know from WoBs that you can bond a Cognitive Shadow in a similar manner to a spren, in fact, almost identically. What if there's a reason for that? What if these two are parallels to one another?
"old" Voidbinding, where Spren are simply added onto the Voidbinder's spiritweb.
Surgebinding, where Spren bond to and gradually grow closer to the Surgebinder's spiritweb.
"New" voidbinding, where Cognitive Shadows (Fused) are simply added onto the Voidbinder's spiritweb (in this case, we know this destroys the mind of the original Singer. I'm unsure of if "old" Voidbinding would have replaced the Voidbinder's mind with that of the Spren).
And this unknown art of gradually bonding a Cognitive Shadow like a Surgebinder and Spren.
It almost feels like an "internal/external & push/pull" double duality like a quadrant of the Metallic Arts. Which, I know, isn't very relevant. It just reminds me of that sort of thing. 4 parts of a set, each one removed from the two adjacent to it by one trait. The method of bonding, and what is being bonded. A, a, and B, b. 1 or 0 in two bits for 4 combinations.
...anyway that's my midnight theory ramble over, go ahead and poke this full of holes with actual facts.
So if you could bond a Cognitive shadow...
Does this mean you could technically (with hacking) make a Nahel-ish bond with Kelsier in those years before he got spiked back into the physical realm?
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Also, the Shards are pieces of Adonalsium (Surprise!)
I seem to recall something in either Oathbringer or Words of Radiance about Odium being "God's own divine hatred, separated from the virtues that gave it context".
If that's true, perhaps a similar aspect to Adonalsium may be Sorrow, or something related?
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New here.
Read Stormlight Archives, Mistborn, most of the others.
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Number of Alethi Shardblades
in Stormlight Archive
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Something that I find interesting is that the Shardblades Dalinar was shown were only from two orders- out of nine who left. If the numbers are even anywhere close, there could be another 500+ sets of shards out there somewhere.