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That's why I said During WoK. If you reread it, you'll find that at that time she didn't know about any of these things. She had only a theory about parshmen, and as a matter of fact, a flawed one, as she believed that the parshendi were "normal parshmen who were changed INTO parshendi", while we know it's the other way around. Given that, more shocking would be to her to know about the Fused. She didn't know about Odium either, and certainly was ignorant about the first Voidbringers being humans from Ashyn, as we know Hoid told her that at the end of WoR. I could also point to her the translation of the Eila stele, if proving it to everyone else was the problem. That was the joking in "finding out a way of telling this in 10 words". And even if she knew everything, there's proof that she'd be pleased to know there's another person who believes her in chapter 74, when she is noticeably happy to know Shallan has come to the same theory as her, being the first person to do so. For the final part of my post, I really hope you realize this topic was meant as a way to amuse each other in a humorous way. Lol to you, and my most sincere regards, sir.

I have none. Unless I figure out a less than 10 words phrase to say to Jasnah, during WoK: "Hey, these Voidbringers you're researching are a combination of ancient parshendi ancestors, splinters of a deity called Odium, and monsters created by them, and they are coming back soon. Plus, the original ones were humans. Now let's get to the backseat of my car to talk of repayment for this piece of knowledge".

Where does the Stormfather say all of this?

Ok, there's been something bothering me for some time. The supposed job of the Radiants was to stay vigilant for coming desolations. It's safe to assume that they heard the preach of the Heralds saying that they had finally won at Aharietiam, as the whole world was built around that fact, even religions arising from that (Vorinism). So, if they believed them, why didn't they abandon their shards immediately? Given that they thought there wasn't going to be another desolation, rendering the whole order of knights useless. Now, let's think of the opposite case. Let's assume they knew they hadn't won (Which I don't think was the case, cause the realisation of what the Heralds did is sure one of the reasons for the Recreance). That would mean there was a 2500 year gap between the Last Desolation and the False Desolation, in which hundreds of generations of Radiants spent their whole lives being idle. What jobs did they dedicate to? How did they even remember what the voidbringers were llke? Can it be the case that this much time without a real goal was the cause of all the squabbling between orders? Thoughts about this...

Well, then you will be quite amazed when you read it, since Oathbringer is not only Dalinar's flashback book, but also the book in which he takes protagonism. (Zona Oeste? Tengo familia en San Justo y Ramos Mejía)

Thanks! So far i've read the 3 Stormlight Archive books, Elantris and the 1º book of Mistborn, The Final Empire. I'm currently reading The Well of Ascension. My favourite character is by far Dalinar Kholin. Which city do you live in? Yo soy de Bariloche.

Yeah, probably a combination of all of that.

That's the reason of the weakness, not what the weakness consist of. I meant, maybe the heralds going mad was the result of a weakening of the oathpact.

We don't know the nature of the weakness yet, what it means. Maybe that only accounts for the madness that the heralds are currently suffering.

That is assuming that the oathpact IS in fact weakened. There's only speculation about it. For what we know, the 9 remaining heralds are still bound to it, thus making the Everstorm possible at any time, given that the 10 heralds are present on Roshar. And as the previous comments have stated, stormform is an old thing. If I were playing for Voidbringer team, I'd rather have the Everstorm running than not. That is supported by the statement by the Stormfather saying that the Everstorm is of old design. 4500+ years of a storm reviving fused would be overwhelming even for a hundred heralds. Therefore I still suspect Honor was aware of it, and had a hand in forestalling it.

Seems plausible. Still, there's still not official word about the capabilities of Odium. Seems a bit off to me that the oathpact alone could keep at bay the Everstorm, since all this time Odium's investiture could manifest on Roshar anyway. Plus, the calling of the new storm seemed to be the doing of the listeners in stormform alone. That could be also possible during the false desolation, when the singers were given forms of power. I think along the line of this: Honor himself might be involved, or maybe Odium is playing the fool, making everybody believe he's more incapacitated than he actually is.

If that's the case, then he could have done it at any point for the last 4500 years. Why wait until rosharan civilization was at its best?

I guess, technically, Odium never NEEDED the Everstorm, not even now. But it gives a noticeable edge in war. He obviously had to wait for Taln to break in order to start the storm, that's why I reckon he could have done it during any past desolation, after all of the heralds were back in Roshar, hence not sealing away the fused. Unless you're saying that the oathpact had to be weakened to some extent for Odium to be able to do it. In that case, we can do nothing but to sit and wait for Stormilght 4.

But there's WoB saying that the Oathpact is not quite broken, not as the heralds asume at least. Anyway, it seems to me that the everstorm is too valuable a card, to leave it unplayed until last moment.

Hi guys! My name is David, I'm from Argentina. I didn't even know about Brandon Sanderson until july 2016, when a friend of mine gave me a copy of The Way of Kings for my birthday. Since then, I've been devouring Cosmere books. I recently finished Oathbringer and Elantris, so I decided to join the forums, to serve the double purpose of feeding my axiousness for upcoming books, and practicing my english. See you around!

Hi, I just signed up to this forum, so this is my first post. Therefore, if there's another topic about this, please redirect me. Thanks! I finished my 1° reading of Oathbringer llst week, and I was just wondering: If the greatest impediment for Team Voidbringer during the desolations was the trapping on Braize of the fallen fused, then why didn't Odium sought to create the everstorm before, thus enabling multiple resurrections for the fused, many desolations ago? I'm looking forward to your opinions on the subject!