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I have a similar theory that I posted about a while back:

Just for fun. If the Heralds had to pair up into 5 couples, who do you think should be with who.

I was thinking about this the other day. Since there are 10 Oathgates and 10 orders of Knights Radiant, let's try to associate each Oathgate Kingdom with a Knights Radiant order, just for fun. This can be based on what we know about the Kingdoms the Oathgates are located in, and the general characteristics of each Kingdom's people, government, culture, environment etc. 1. Alethkar / Windrunners This is one was probably the easiest for me to pick. Ancient Alethela was known for having a high concentration of Windrunners, and the River that runs through the Kingdom is named Windrunner River. Also, Alethkar is known for being a miltaristic society, priding themselves on being a conquering people, whilst competing with each other in their war games. Windrunners were known as the military leaders of the Knights Radiant. 2. Shinovar / Skybreakers The Shin seem to be the people who follow the "good ole ways". They are more isolated and different from the rest of Roshar's kingdoms. Similar to how the Skybreakers were the only order not to break their oaths. 3. Jah Keved / Dustbringers Dustbringers were a hard one for me. I chose Jah Kaved because of the civil war "breaking" the kingdom apart. Jah Keved also puts a lot of importance on their military, and the Dustbringers seem to be one of the orders that can easily use their powers to cause widespread physical destruction. 4. Rira / Edgedancers Another hard one. We don't know much about Rira other than it is Evi Kholin's homeland. I decided to associate Rira with the Edgdancers because of Evi's personality and the nature of that kingdom's religion. Also Lift is Reshi, and I think Rira is the closest kingdom to the Reshi Isles. 5. Babatharnam / Truthwatchers Yet another kingdom we currently don't know a lot about. I thought Truthwatchers would be appropriate because of how their government elects its leader with the oldest person ruling. So Babatharnams have to know the truth about the oldest living person and have to constantly watch and keep up with who is next in line. 6. Iri / Lightweavers Iri's capital, Rall Elorim, is known as the "City of Shadows", and Kasitor is known as the "City of Lightning". Like an enormous Lightweaver's projection, the largest known spren, Cusicesh lives off the coast of Kasitor. There is a lot of mystery still about Iri and what goes on there past and present. Kind of like the issues Lighweavers deal with about lies and truth. I thought the Lighweaver's would be appropriate for Iri. 7. Azir / Elsecallers The culture and people of Azir seem to place a lot of importance on Scholarship and organization and generally being careful about things with the Kingdom's litany of written rules and procedures. To be the Prime, you usually have to convince others that what you plan to do is wise etc. Elsecallers share the same characteristics with the kingdom's philosophy on things in general. The viziers even seemed to be really impressed with Jasnah. 8. Thaylenah / Willshapers The second easiest one for me to pick after Alethkar and Windrunners. Thaylenah is a sea faring culture, and its sailors and merchants love exploring Roshar, like Captain Tozbek, Vstim and Rysn. All the Thaylen seamen we've been introduced love seeing the new sights and enjoy themselves while traveling. Thaylenah is a perfect match for Willshapers. 9. Aimia / Stonewards I chose the Stonewards for Aimia because of Taln. Taln was the one herald who was abandoned and left to suffer alone. Aimia is a desolate place that has been scoured. Its Oathgate is considered lost just like Taln was, and Aimia was destoyed quite like how Taln currently is after coming back from damnation. 10. Shattered Plains / Bondsmiths The Oathgate that united people. The first one to be unlocked that led to others following. It was the first one to be discovered and it eventually brought all the remaining people from Alethkar's warcamps together to Urithiru. The last Parshendi people united at the place calling it Narak. All of this matches with the Bondsmiths. Let me know your thoughts and ideas on this. Would you change anything?

I was interpreting that as the Stormfather alluding to human surgebinders operating in a storm, not just ordinary men. That's why I was wondering why he would say specifically human surgebinders have no business in the Seas, but do belong in the Skies. Is there more to that line?

Thank you! I think this was the passage I was looking for, but forgot where I read it. It was what prompted me to make this topic. Any theories as to why the Stormfather would say that men do not belong in the Seas during a storm? Are the Seas an arena Odium might have an advantage in? Or am I reading to much into that?

I was thinking about something I read in WoR a while back. I can't remember if it was Eshonai, Venli or one of the Group of 5 parshendi that said it, and I can't remember the exact words or context it was. Something about that there are no surges or Radiant orders that have mastery over the water. It got me to wonder why that might be, and I don't know of anything of the current orders being associated with the water. I was thinking about the giant water spren of Rall Elorim and the water creature in Herdaz might be connected to this somehow? Would having control over the water be Odium related? Someone more knowledgeable help me with these thoughts. I'll try and go back and find the quote I remember in my head and post it here when I find it, since it's the reason why I started this topic.

From what I've read it would have to be Dalinar then Jasnah, and Hoid.

I discovered Brandon Sanderson in December 2017. Started with Mistborn, and have read The Final Empire, Well of Ascension, but got spoiled on the Hero of Ages ending before reading it all, maybe I'll get back to it eventually. I have read all the Stormlight books including Edgedancer, and just got through with Oathbringer last week. I'll probably read Warbreaker next.