Darth Woodrack

Walker smiled. He then ran around behind Lusk, left his katana and then returned to where he was, before laying of the steel mind and spinning to the side, to get a shot off at Lusk's foot. At the same time, he called his katana to him, blade first.

Just to recap the arguments for voters: Pro Sci-Fi It adds enjoyment to the shard for some and can be controlled. The Precursors will stay out of space as according to the following suggestion: Covenant and UNSC weapons, banshees, scorpions, warthogs, mantises, ghosts, 1 scarab, seraphs, the species, the flood, and the spartan 2 process, as well as the armor. I will stay out of space, and the weapons aren't even that more useful. I will make it that the Seraphs and the banshees can't go into space, and I'll up the price of the Mjolnir armor, so peusudo shardplate isn't commonly acquirable. The only covenant weapon that is actually more powerful than it's human equivalent, is the energy sword, which has the counterpart of a sword. Those need to have a replaceable power cell, because they can only hit something 10 times, and EMPs knock out all the ones not powered of investiture. Thel is has the only exception to that rule, and he is pretty much a knights radiant, if all of the left over investiture was put into a thug. Essentially, if someone has a carbine and says that it shoots straight through your armor, 1. It doesn't, 2. Bring me in to set them straight. Sniper rifles are the only exception to the power limit, and how are they going to whip out a beam rifle, and get a accurate hit on a moving target, in the middle of a duel? What the Precorsor would actually have: Covenant and UNSC weapons, banshees, scorpions, warthogs, mantises, ghosts, 1 scarab, seraphs, the species, the flood, and the spartan 2 process, as well as the armor, and small UNSC ships that are made to function as submarines. Anti Sci-Fi(All that aren't qoutes come from @Ookla the Lurker Regardless of how the information is disseminated, introducing something that isn't widely known is going to cause issues and potentially confuse or slow down the RP. Then there's also the questions that have no clear answer. Could a Needler penetrate Shardplate? An Energy sword? What would happen if a Shardblade tried to block an energy sword? etc. I'm not opposed to technology (Technology is SCIENCE after all). But when space ships, fleets and armadas get involved it makes things a bit awkward.It's a whole different scale of story, and I think it's definitely likely to create three things that multiple people have mentioned they want less of:Power creep, armies and PvP. To sum up what I see as the main arguments from the con side:-Sci fi leads to space opera which is of an entirely different scale to what the Alleyverse focuses on, this can minimize and draw attention from other plots.-Sci fi leads to armies, which people have expressed concerns about- Sci fi requires vast resources and power, which people have expressed concerns about.- Sci fi technology tends to be on a power level that's higher than what people want in the Alleyverse.- Thematically it doesn't match most of Brandons works which make up the base of the Alleyverse.And some from me personally:- Sci fi as a genre usually tells different stories, this would create radically different stories within the RP and might derail or spoil stories that are started with a more traditional fantasy element in mind.- Technology can be acquired by anyone so adding technology into the Alleyverse means potential issues with making magic based characters even more powerful.- It seems likely that this would lead to an arms race, power creep, scope creep and increased PvP (Almost all sci fi elements that people have introduced have been combat based in nature)

Walker saw Lusk. He was happy. He then saw his niece in the crowd, "Oh crap," He said. His niece was soooo annoying. Well, better get on with it. He pulled out a devastor and sent a spray of plasma at Lusk, tyin to catch him in the midriff.

What I always do is find the cross universe equivalent. So, a needler is a equivalent of a high powered crossbow, and the best equivalent I can find for an energy sword is Walkers katana, which is 60% the strength of a shardblade. I can post an entire guide about this in the Precursors thread, and I can be the definitive judge. If it is me arguing about someone else, that is what mods are for. It is not hard to judge how Halo weapons actually work, as they do follow physics, unlike other sci-fi, so then it's only, how powerful are they compared to the fantasy stuff, which this entire fansite theories about their strength.

There is no way in Damnation that a needler could do more than scratch shardplate. I don't know what you mean by this. It would. It might get scratched and would probably pop a gem, if it hard enough, but the plate would be fine.

Walker calmy stood at his side of the arena. He was ready for a fair duel, without fades, or wingless larkin. He spun his katanas in a circle. He would have to wait though. Still, target practice is always fun. Welcome! This is the contest of Champions, Walker vs. Lusk! @Ookla the Guacless is Lusk, I am Walker and @Ookla the Ookla is mod. Here are the combatants. Let the games begin!!!

Check your inbox. I do see what you mean. I remember being annoyed at how I didn't get how Arks armor worked in our duel. How about this: before anytime they come in, they have to post the things the armor can do, and not exceed those limits, and if there's a dispute, just call me in.

The Sentinels. Also, energy, and magnetically contained plasma, are physically possible. I just need to say something: The only covenant weapon that is actually more powerful than it's human equivalent, is the energy sword, which has the counterpart of a sword. Those need to have a replaceable power cell, because they can only hit something 10 times, and EMPs knock out all the ones not powered of investiture. Thel is has the only exception to that rule, and he is pretty much a knights radiant, if all of the left over investiture was put into a thug. Essentially, if someone has a carbine and says that it shoots straight through your armor, 1. It doesn't, 2. Bring me in to set them straight. Sniper rifles are the only exception to the power limit, and how are they going to whip out a beam rifle, and get a accurate hit on a moving target, in the middle of a duel? Also something else I just thought of: can I have smaller unsc ships, but have them be modified to be submarines? They would be for shipping, and would fall in nicely with the Jackal pirates I have planned.

I really want only a few things things from this: Covenant and UNSC weapons, banshees, scorpions, warthogs, mantises, ghosts, 1 scarab, seraphs, the species, the flood, and the spartan 2 process, as well as the armor. I will stay out of space, and the weapons aren't even that more useful. I will make it that the Seraphs and the banshees can't go into space, and I'll up the price of the Mjolnir armor, so peusudo shardplate isn't commonly acquirable. The scarab is a last ditch effort to make them notable, and actually Scarabs aren't that powerful. It would be remarkably easy for a couple GB, or Sentinels to get aboard and get an explosive device in the core.

Seems reasonable.

Narrator Darth restored Gancho's rank.

So, @Ookla the Lurker, @AdOokla, @Ookla the Paragon, and whatever the other moderators name is right now, is the planet allowed? I put a poll for what should happen to my new guild in our thread, if anyone wants to vote in it. If I don't get any new votes for a while, I'll just take it out.

Then Gancho was banned for assault, and Darth took his place as an admin.

Ookla Ookla.

The thread was then unlocked by Narrator Darth.

Guacemole.

Warhammer is the most powerful Sci-Fi universe in existence, to my knowledge. Halo follows actual physics. They are even keeled. If we remove one, we have to remove the other, because if we don't it is a bias. I don't actually see any real space operas. or the other stuff. I promise to limit the Precursors involvement, and by the nature of the guild, if someone doesn't want them involved to a thread, they will stay out of it. Sci-Fi adds enjoyment to some people, and doesn't majorly subtract from the enjoyment of others. It's removal just subtracts from enjoyment, and again if people want us to stay out of events, we will stay out of events. I believe that I speak for the Black Crusade when I say that we will not force ourselves into things. If we can use our technology and exist where people want us to, and sell it, among all of the things that we have permission to do, we will stay out of everything else. It can still go with all of the other stuff, but the universe would still include these things. Perhaps the Sci-Fi things could go to a different planet? They would still be able to be involved on the events of the Alleyplanet, and would still exist, and could still sell our stuff. Halo and Warhammer combined could teraform a planet to fit our needs, and Slip space travel, means that it can be light years away. I would just stop arguing right now, if we can just go to our own planet and be our own thing, doing what we want and having fun in our way, and only getting involved if invited. Is this accepted? Because if it is I can make a thread for it right now.

So, we're just removing Sc-Fi completely?

I don't entirely understand why Sci Fi is a problem I get that we should stop adding more, and it needs to be limited but I see no reason why it has to be removed. I love Halo, and Brandon Sanderson, and I want to include it in the Alleyverse. If anyone else has any particular reason why it should not be included, that is not because of a personnel preference, please tell me. I believe that we should restrain the quantity of Sci Fi, not it's existince. It adds enjoyment to some people's experience and doesn't interfere to the point where others enjoyment is ruined, so I think it should be included.

It says: You chosen to ignore Ookla the Ookla, and then it shows that post.

EGGNOG.

Change your name to Ookla The God of Anime.

So we've pretty much agreed to keep time travel out of the alleyverse. So, anyone want to join the Precursors? We have great benefits.

APPLE CIDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!