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I think it is also worthwhile to take note of dalinars unprecedented abilities that he displays at the end of OB. Things are working differently then when honor was alive. Under these circumstances things that may not have been possible under the original system may now become possible within the new system. Especially with the help of dalinar i think that adolin will revive Maya and become a radiant.

in that case not so useless after all 

18 hours ago, Leyrann said:

Elantris is an Aon, not a glyph.

Anyways, Stormseat already got obliterated despite being a Dawncity, so I doubt that's it.

Also, glyph symmetry tends to be wildly different from possible cymatic figures, plus we actually have an art page in OB that shows a glyph 'evolving' over time, implying there is no 'true' form or anything like that, though on the other hand Kaladin creates the Windrunner glyph when swearing a new Oath.

Oops my mistake what I was trying to show was that aons and glyph are the same idea, a set combination of lines that form a lager image. like mandarin 

elantris also was damaged so the destruction of one doesn't mean anything plus there are multiple other dawn city's 

Also while glyphs on roshar as a language change over time,the glyphs created by honor and/ or cultivation would be the"true form" or whatever and that would be the glyph that kaladin creates

9 hours ago, Weltall said:

There's actual debate in-universe on what actually constitutes a Dawncity so they're clearly not obvious. Also, Elantris works as it does because the magic of Sel is form-based. Rosharan magic appears to be bond-based so the alleged symmetry of a Dawncity, or of the glyphs, or of 'holy' names do not serve as a conduit to power on Roshar in the same way than an Aon or a properly carved Soulstamp do on Sel.

Well that's my whole idea that it's a  "in case of doomsday backup". IF odium shatters honor or cultivation and stuffs them in the cognitive realm like he did to dominion and devotion the people or parshmen/ singers/ listeners would then be able to access their investiture the same way the elantrians do 

Just a thought I felt I needed to voice so it would stop bouncing around my head and driving me nuts:

 Elantris spoiler ahead:

What if, when honor and cultivation found out how odium shattered dominion and devotion and the side effects of this on the magic system and people decided to create the dawn city's which are all symmetrical rock "glyphs" or "symbols" to act the same way as elantris in case odium tried and succeeded to shatter either of them in the same way 

I FINALLY FOUND IT! 

I have been looking for this thread  for almost as long as I knew of 17th shard and I was not let down you guys have written some seriously awesome  keteks 

here are a couple I wrote around when oathbringer came out I hope you all enjoy them as much as I have enjoyed yours 

 Love forever grow beyond never limit never beyond growth forever love 

ascend to below bringing light shine light bring below to ascend 

journey through realm beyond dedication achieves destination achieve dedication beyond realms through journey  ( i was thinking about  elsecallers and shadesmar)

( they don't have many of these on roshar but whatever)        reaching onward twisting roots buried deep tree deep buried roots twisting onward reaching 

flowing past forever gone unseen hand times hand unseen gone forever past flows 

surging scream twisted rush forward crushing storm crushing forward rush twisted scream surging (  highstorm duh)

Light on high striding forward true pure truth forward striding high on light ( wind runners although they are more honor than truth it's poetic) 

and one for me, 

wise heavens glow blue rise great nomon great rise blue glow heavens wisdom 

i doubt that adolin will become the champion especially as he is set to become a massive celebrity in the spren world if (when) he revives his blade. the number of spren willing to bond or simply ally to dalinar is tremendous and will totally be a game changer.  i think moash  will be the next "void-herald" (imagine if kaladin had to actually fight him...)  but not the champion after all it is a bit obvious and not the counter-dalinar like he is to kaladin 

perhaps both conversions (light\dense and dense\light) take the same amount of stormlight and the excess energy of the the denser materiel transforms back into stormlight to either help fuel the change or goes back into the gem? or not at all b\c e=mc2 isn't stormlight=mc2

Some more food for thought: roshars gravity is 0.7 of earths 

I definitely see wax as a windrunner rather than a skybreaker but I wonder if Wayne would be a lightweaver 

all that math is a bit beyond me but i am curious to know if the rock to smoke soulcasting that happened in oathbringer 

(not really a spoiler but to play it safe...)

 was mathematically accurate  so if someone were to go ahead and calculate that it would be appreciated : )