Straff Venture

Picking up a shardblade is supposed to make you a lighteyes, it's part of the mythos of the shardblades. And yet, Szeth's eyes go back to dark the moment he puts his away. This isn't an effect observed anywhere else in the book. Is it his nature as Shin, Wierdorunner, or Truthless that does this? Or maybe something else entirely? His lade-type perhaps?

Maybe there is a type of nahel bond involved in gaining a shardblade, and seeing as szeth does not have this bond may explain why.

All shardic powers seem to by trying to immitate something. Shallan's memories and Copper, Steel/Iron and Lashings, AonDor and general allomancy. They all seem to be attempting an immitation of what they once knew. Maybe hemalurgy's general use has something to do wtih that?

Good idea. Maybe the new magic systems are working from the ashes of the original one's coding.

Following up on my previous thread, I would like to see who everyone's favourite characters in the cosmere books are.

My own is Marsh, whose character I thought was greatly thought out and written.

I sincerely hope so.

I find the thought that they mostly don't know about the wider cosmere really disconcerting, for some reason. While after reading Mistborn (the first of Brandon's books I read) I didn't know much about it, I could already tell there was something deeper than the trilogy that would connect everything. I just don't know how you wouldn't be able to talk about that when talking about Brandons books, seeing as it is central to so many things.

Probably that the 52 Straff mentioned was the amount of upvotes he had given.

yeah, big fail by me.

At the moment my profile bar says I am at sixteen reputation but my stats page on my profile says I have been cast 52 positive points. Are these two different things?

EDIT: Just realised now, sorry

oh, now i get it

I'd put it simply as a Vorin style of name, apart from the obvious one that lighteyes names are often palindromes. A lot of writers simply make names similar in their books to match how naming works in real life (I could tell an English name from an Arabic one straight away).

Sodiumspren - only appear when a great book is being written.

Am I missing the significance of sodium?

John is then hit by the interior wall of the train travelling at 57 mph relative to him. John dies or otherwise suffers serious injury.

Wow a combat use for cadmium?! The world has ended!

I heard on odd theory that Renarin's weakness was his curse, and that his boon was forgetting his wife. However, we do know now that the curses and boons are limited in some ways, and I doubt that the Nightwatcher's power extends like that.

Besides, we all know a question like that's a RAFO just waiting to happen

That theory sounds pretty good, not only is it a really awesome plot twist but I remember in tWoK when Dalinar is talking to Navani and his sons about going to the Nightwatcher he pays particular attention to Renarin's reaction.

I'm really not that old of a hand here. You'd be better off PM'ing Chaos or KChan or someone else who's been here since the dawn of time. I haven't heard anything like that to my knowledge, though. People don't really talk about Warebreaker much.

Will do, thanks

That's where my interpretation came from, actually.

That's an interesting connection, but I agree that it's probably just coincidence. (Just wait and see that it's totally not a coincidence now that I've said it is ).

Kurk, you've been on the forums a long time, do you know if you or someone else has already made a theory about this (biochroma stuff, not hathsin stuff). I wouldn't mind making a theory about it myself.

To clarify, Breaths only output a fraction of their total power at any given time, but that fraction is the amount that they can naturally regenerate/reuse. Nightblood and Returned, then, simply use more of a Breath's power than it can regenerate, destroying the Breath in the process.

Interesting. I've always thought of shards functioning in a similar way: only so much can be used at once, but nothing is really lost forever.

Oh yeah, on a completely different subject, I noticed a really minor connection that is probably just a coincidence, but might be an 'easter egg' on Brandon's behalf. Slaves in the pits of hathsin have to find an atium bead at least once a week to survive. This is eerily similar to the state of the returned, swapping atium for breath. Kelsier's 'surviving' could also be compared to 'returning'. Maybe this even conveys the message that the returned are just as doomed as the slaves, always eventually dying for the people of T'Telir.

That could well be the case, I agree, and was basically what I was getting at. But sentience has very little to do with either of those activities.

What are you thinking it is, Kurk?

Interesting thought, but I don't think so. Nightblood is perfectly fine being sentient and reading minds and whatnot the vast majority of the time: he only eats Breath when he's being super-sword.

Yeah, but then a sword only needs energy when its being swung (normally this would come from the arm of the bearer, but because nightblood is powerful it uses the energy very quickly). Returned are always living, and as in the same way humans always need food to get energy/glucose, returned are always slowly eating away at the breath.

I don't think we're in too deep of a pit here with "how an object perceives itself." My first impression from that was more of a sense of location/belonging than anything else. So each part of the arrow perceives itself as part of the arrow as a whole, passengers on a train perceive themselves as within the train, etc.

I agree. Simply 'not knowing you were in a speed bubble' would not keep it from affecting you, as we see Wax not instantly knowing about Wayne's speed bubble but it still having an effect on him. I would also say it is the type of perception that makes us think of our chest or head as the centre of our body.

Kurk, on chat we theorised that the reason no breath was spent in awakened objects was because they weren't sentient like returned or nightblood, and so the expense in breath had something to do with the cognitive aspect of the manifestation.

I'd say they are both a fuel in their own right. If we said it in terms of a car, the breath would be the engine and colour the battery. We know that returned require a breath a week, as they use whatever type of energy is in the breath to stay alive for seven days, not needing food or any other type of sustenance. Much in the way a car needs fuel in its engine to keep running. Now on the other hand, awakeners suck a bit of colour out of their surroundings to transfer their breath to another place. I would compare this to the way a car needs a battery to kickstart itself, but the battery is generally not used when the car is running. The only discrepancy I can see with this is that normal awakened objects do not feed off breath.

Thoughts?

One thing I forgot, if ever there was going to be a disparity in the ratio of mistings there would be less seers, because they are so powerful in a fight (we see in HoA a group of a dozen or two fighting hundreds of thousands of koloss for hours). However, the stats in HoA show us that exactly a sixteenth of the people who got snapped by the mists became seers. I doubt there would be less of another type of allomancer than seers, so the ratio is probably always one sixteenth for every type on average.

I think Alloy of Law got me confused about which Mistborn books will be released, so based off this thread, is there going to be a future trilogy too? The modern one will still be crazy, I'm sure.

I'm pretty sure there will still be a futuristic trilogy. The Wax and Wayne books are separate from the main sequence as far as I know.

I've only read TWOK and Warbreaker. Which don't explain the origin of the cosmere much at all, and don't talk about the Shards except Odium and Honor, and doesn't call them Shards.

If you want to read up on the shards, Adonalsium etc. go to the coppermind, its a wiki for the universe where a lot of Brandon's books take place. At the moment, you're at a disadvantage to most of the people on the forums so its all great stuff to know.

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Well he should be.

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Austre, from Warbreaker.

Austre is likely endowment, as Brandon has said there is only one shard on Nalthis.

Brandon mentioned that the whole "All in or all out" thing depended in part on the cognitive aspect of the objects. Could this be the reason for the size-limit? Your cognitive aspect? There might be a way to mess with this to expand the bubble to rediculous sizes.

Maybe thats why Wayne's speed bubbles are really so small, its just because of his minuscule cognitive aspect