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I haven't seen anything in text that states Hoid is human. We assume he is because all of the other main characters are.

Can we post quotes from The Liar of Partinel?... please edit me if we cant't... anyway, *Spoilers* for that one ahead.

I do believe Hoid is human for this one conversation between Hoid (the Old Master) and Mindius (whom, let's suppose, for the sake of this argument, is our Hoid):

"Men seek for that which is beyond themselves, even when they know that it is too good to be real. This is our most noble of attributes! Our ability to believe that which is false does not make us fools, but kings."

— The Liar of Partinel, Sample Chapter 1 - Hoid tries to convince Mindius to have face in men.

I know this is not the final story but I don't suppose Brandon would change the background history that much. So I'm inclined to belive that Hoid was, at least at some point, human.

That said, I am of the opinion that humans are native to the Mistborn world. It is specifically stated in the text that Ruin and Preservation joined together to create humans. It does not say they imported them, it states they created them.

Warbreaker has the story about how the Vo came to the area and that Siri's people are a spinoff of him and the culture that developed from those that came with him. Centuries could have changed the origin point in the lore.

Way of Kings is very explicit about humans not being native.

Elantris is a little shaky in my memory, but the religion origin story in it could be used to trace back the people to an origin point.

I don't think humans can be native to the Scadrial.

The story the kandra tell Sazed sounds a bit off; they say that Ruin and Preservation created the world and it's people, but Brandon Sanderson has stated that all the worlds existed prior to the arrival of the shards, so at least part of the kandra story is either wrong or misleading. They could be saying that they created the "world as they new it", or it could be just a poor interpretation made by the Lord Ruler during the time he held the shard power. Either way, I don't believe that what they say can be taken as proof that Ruin and Preservation created the humans in Scadrial out of nothing.

Also, as mentioned, there is Hoid (if not the Hoid we know then maybe his master) and there are the shard holders... this is pure speculation now (or maybe I read it somewhere?) but I believe the shards had to have a holder - human - so they would acquire the intent that would allow them to create something?

Anyway, I had not noticed that all the other planets had stories about humans not being native... that's very interesting!

I'm inclined to believe (with no real fundament that I can point out at this time of night but, hey! that's what my new signature is for!) that scandrial is the one giving the wrong clue through it's religion while all the other planets tell us that humans came from somewhere else... maybe from somewhere like what in Roshar is called Tranquiline Halls...

I found a similarity between Ishikk's Religion (Roshar) and the Trelagism (Scadrial).

Both of them worship a God who has a jealous brother!! (Ok it's a bit weak... and I only have some quotes wrapped in a bunch of disconnected ideas... but maybe it can help...).

"Nalt only had one eye, he made it blaze brightly to outshine his brother. The Nelazan, however, were not impressed, and preferred to worship the quiet Trell, who watched over them even when Nalt obscured the sky."

— The Well of Ascension Chapter 9 - Sazed tries to offer the religion to Vin

"Foreigners were so stupid. Of course Nu Ralik was their god, but you always pretended that he wasn’t. Vun Makak—his younger, spiteful brother—had to be tricked into thinking you worshipped him, otherwise he’d get jealous. It was only safe to speak of these things in a holy grotto."

— The Way of Kings Interlude I-1 - Ishikk discussing his religion with the worldhoppers

From what I could find referring to Ishikk's religion (which, I belive, was only mentioned on his interlude in TWoK) this is as far as the similarity goes.

One major problem to this being the same religion is the reference (or rather, lack of it) to the moons. Scadrial has no moons (as already confirmed by Brandon Sanderson). The Trelagism is based on the believes of Trell's thousands eyes (the stars) and Trell's brother only eye (the sun), there is no mention of a larger "eye" for Trell that would indicate a moon in it's believes. Roshar, on the other hand, has 3 moons, and I could not find references to the stars having any major impact in Roshar cultures.

I found one other quote that might be of interest thought:

"A face formed before him, the face he had seen before, the aged face as wide as the sky, its eyes full of stars."

— The Way of Kings Chapter 46 - Kaladin's storm dream (the face is supposedly of Tanavast, the Almighty?).

Also, on a side note, I found this reference "It was the time between moons, and so he was lit mostly by the firelight; there was a spray of stars in the sky above." (TWoK) the "spray of stars" might refer to the same stars as seen from Scadrial ie:"There is a very bright star patch, covering much of the sky-much brighter than on Earth." (Quote from Brandon Sanderson - answering a question about Scadrial).