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What would happen if you connected two spanreeds set both to either send or receive mode and then wrote something?

Just now, Calderis said:

I'll continue to disagree. 

fair enough

Just now, Calderis said:

I doubt it it for Azure's, as an awakened blade I don't think it's physical material can become malleable enough to merge with the locking mechanism even if the mechanism reacts properly. 

Nightblood would just obliterate the Oathgate. 

we do not understand the oathgates because of that we cannot make any assumptions on what will or will not activate them

1 minute ago, Calderis said:

I disagree, based of the end of WoR. You have to use the keyhole to make the gate function. The material of the keyhole doesn't respond to a dead blade, just a living one. And the Honorblades working as well makes sense in that context as the blades

that is like saying "i know how a gun works you point and pull the trigger" just because you have a rudimentary understanding of how a thing functions sort of does not mean that its impossible for it to function differently from how you expect take azure's or szeth's blade for instance will they work ?

8 hours ago, IntentAwesome said:

The Honorblades were not crafted from spren, but instead directly from pieces of Honor’s soul. And, as has been mentioned, they also had the ability to work the Oathgates. I’ve always interpreted this scene as Dalinar creating a very primitive form of something like an Honorblade. This isn’t directly forcing the Stormfather himself, but since the Stormfather has merged with Honor’s cognitive shadow, it would still have an effect on him.

Ive always taken this scene as a hint that Dalinar is becoming something a little more than your average Bondsmith. 

that's a really good explanation also yeah i am fairly certain he is going to ascend 

8 hours ago, Calderis said:

Sorry, I didn't take it that way. I'm not aware of anything that implies it's impossible for the oathgates to do that, just that the Spren are not willing. 

They have an indestructible keyhole that only conforms to fit living spren blades and Honorblades. How is that anecdotal? 

first of all i meant that that its considered impossible to open one without a blade second of all it is purely anecdotal we don't have any clue about how the oathgates work and have no reason to assume only a blade can open them

i wanted to make a point that just because something is considered impossible does not mean that it is further more the only actual evidence we have towards oathgates requiring shardblades is completely anicdotal

@Calderis just like the gate cannot transport people between the physical realm and shadmeser ?

9 hours ago, Journey Before Pancakes said:

I mean, this is the same novel where Dalinar manages to summon honors perpendicularity, recharges stormlight, and calls himself Unity.

It seems (to me at least) that Brandon is trying to hint that something strange is going on with Dalinar and the Stormfather.  The ambiguity is probably on purpose.

well i mean while the whole conduit thing was sudden but it was explained and well established the gate thing was like three lines also yeah Dalinar is totally going to go full vin 

9 hours ago, Calderis said:

The oathgates are only able to be opened by living Shardblades and Honorblades. The Stormfather has told Dalinar that he will not be a Shardblade for him. Dalinar then summons an ephemeral blade shape that both seems to hurt and insult the Stormfather, and uses it to activate the Oathgate. 

Do you see a better explanation? 

its just described as a white thing and the stormfather's reaction is very much open to interpretation i personally think he was either insulted or wakened due to Dalinar breaking his oath not because of the thing

Just now, Rock's Stew said:

Is the thing that Kaladin did with the windspren blocking the highstorm the same thing?

i don't think they were forced but either way were talking about radiant spern

Just now, Calderis said:

To my knowledge, since that scene. I would have said you couldn't prior to that. 

it seems rather unlikely for brandon to introduce this huge concept in such an ambiguous way

Just now, Calderis said:

This wasn't Honor's amorphous power. This was a part of the Stormfather himself, who Dalinar is bonded to. 

Dalinar essentially tried to force the Stormfather to become a blade. He succeeded enough to work the gate, even if what appeared wasn't a truly physical blade. 

wait since when can people force their spern to do things ?

nah the topic is finished

i think he's more insulted then hurt and i thought he only broke enough to pull power from the spiritual realm after his confrontation with odium

Just wondering what that was since the stormfather said he will not be used a shardblade

@Scion of the Mists well i have finished oathbringer and i think it just reaffirms my point 

A rather simple question would gold Compounding be able to heal shardblade wounds ?

Just now, Xtafa said:

BPD. Shes more in line with DID besides disassociating, though still doesn't match. 

we need an actual psycolgist here

1 minute ago, Xtafa said:

@Zape

Nah, I know people with this, Shallan doesn't present as such

did or bpd ?

5 hours ago, Calderis said:

At first glance she does have DID. Looking closer though she does not truly dissociate. She retains memories between personalities, and as much as she speaks mostly in the third person on reference to the others there are times that she slips up. Brandon has also stated that this isn't quite DID, and having just finished a reread of OB, she does slip up far more often than is at first apparent. 

She's definitely got issues, but there is no true segregation of personalities like you would see in DID. 

maybe this ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder

oh sorry i thought just putting it in the spoilers section would be okay

I have just started reading oathbringer and it has only strengthened my belief in something i have been fearing since the last book i strongly suspect shallan has disassociate identity disorder aka multiple personality disorder

from wikipedia 

" Dissociative identity disorder (DID), also known as multiple personality disorder, is a mental disorder characterized by at least two distinct and relatively enduring personality states. There is often trouble remembering certain events, beyond what would be explained by ordinary forgetfulness. These states alternately show in a person's behavior. Presentations, however, are variable. Associated conditions often include borderline personality disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, depression, substance misuse disorder, self-harm, or anxiety.

The cause is believed to be due to childhood trauma. In about 90% of cases there is a history of abuse in childhood "

"The symptoms of dissociative amnesia are subsumed under the DID diagnosis"

from the wiki page of psychogenic amnesia

" Psychogenic amnesia, also known as dissociative amnesia, is a memory disorder characterized by sudden retrograde episodic memory loss, said to occur for a period of time ranging from hours to years. More recently, "dissociative amnesia" has been defined as a dissociative disorder "characterized by retrospectively reported memory gaps. These gaps involve an inability to recall personal information, usually of a traumatic or stressful nature."

i am not a psychologist and would be very interested if one happens to stumble over this post i just wanted to point out this thing and discuss possible implications it might have on the story

ps: i am only about 16 chapters into oathbringer please no spoilers for further in the book

i wonder if you would be able to use a honorblade as a projectile

On 3/27/2018 at 6:52 PM, Belzedar said:

Good catch! The culture I associate most with halberds is imperial China, which used them centuries before Europe did. And Azir, with its expertise in bureaucracy and civil service, is a decenty close analogue, especially compared to the more feudal society in Alethkar.

It might be appropriate to say that the halberd is a weapon of full-time professional soldiers, which the centralized Azish government would have a lot of. In Alethkar, the professional soldiers are mostly lighteyes, who prefer swords because of their cultural cache. The darkeyed troops, being more of an ad hoc militia than a proper standing army, just don't match the historical profile of the typical halberdier.

actually this seems to be reopened alethi do know what a halberd is WoR part 2 page 504 "Syl formed a axehead halberd"

just finished WoR and saw kaladin turning his shardblade into a variety of weapons which made me wonder could you make a projectile shardweapon like a bow or a blowpipe obviously you can make it into a throwing knife but that dosn't really count   

29 minutes ago, The One Who Connects said:

That said, I'm curious who the main character for Wandersail is gonna be, and what connection to the story they'll have.

maybe that saltlaker guy ? he seemed like such a bizarre inclusion to the point i suspect he might play some big role