dannnex

Uhhh *tries to remember stuff from world history and fails* I think I remember maybe having the opinion that it was just an excuse. iirc (I probably don’t) he was a prett okay leader and the next dude (marcus something?) wasnt. I am #TeamTractorSprinkler

Ummm the Foundation series by Isaac Asimov is kinda like that. It shows a utopia at the beginning and it falls into chaos. I haven’t finished it yet (honestly I got kinda bored, the language and politicking is heavy at points) but I assume it gets somewhat utopian again at the end? So utopia-anarchy-utopia kinda. Not really what you’re looking for but it’s the best I can think of. Edit: ohohoh, Star Trek. Star Trek is very happy and optimistic and utopian. All about exploration and the seeking of knowledge and stuff. Post-Materialistic society and all that. I know the shows are good (at least, TNG is) but I have little exposure to the books so I can’t vouch for their quality.

Yeah me too. Hey, speaking of Threads we want noticed, y’all should check out this wonderful thread about the implications of Hemalurgy in real life! #ShamelessSelfPromo

Okay, I can change my original proposal, but only because nobody has voted on it yet. If someone had voted we’d have to wait for the amendment to either be passed or be denied before we could amend it again. Also I’m pretty sure unanimous votes are required for the first 2 rounds. Edit: decided to say up to 3 changes because the potential for like 10 proposals made is too much. Also I think someone else edited in strikethroughs? Maybe I miss clicked something idk. I’m on mobile so stuff breaks.

It’s always nighttime somewhere, ergo this thread is always useable

Yeah, I think it’s fine, essential even, for players to be able to join whenever they want. Not just at the start of dynasties.

I think that would have to be a separate amendment for maybe a different rule. Yeah that’s why I wanted to try the 3 rule system. Hopefully we’ll use it for the next dynasty. (Or maybe people might change their minds?) I think using the 3RS would encourage more players to join as well.

Okay then, Majority Rules, the official rules will be the ruleset for this dynasty. For my first turn I propose rule 301: (That is how the numbering system works right?) That rule 202 be amended as such: One turn consists of two parts in this order: (1) If the player wishes to, they may propose [up to 3] rule-change and have [them] voted on, and (2)...[rest is same] Votes in favor of this rule: 1/5 I also suggest that one of the next players amend gaining points in general as the current system (rest of rule 202) is intentionally boring and meant to be changed.

So do you vote for the 29 official rules? lol double ninja edit

Turn order as per rule 201. You’d have to first officially say you vote for the 29 official rules, then propose an amendment on your turn. ninja’d edit

If you want to amend anything, you’d have to first vote for the official rules and then propose those amendments on your turn, and then we’ll all have to vote on your amendments. Making amendments to the rules before those rules are in effect would basically just be making an entirely different (but similar) ruleset.

I think it’s best for them to formally say it, and he might’ve changed his mind. He did after all misunderstand how many rules there were.

Oh true I forgot about Hemalurgic creations, I guess in this altered Hemalurgy those would still exist. ... Now it seems even more terrifying.

It’s easier to add rules like that at the very beginning though with 3 rules, although honestly I think either is viable. We digress. @xinoehp512 @The Last Post waiting on your votes.

Before we officially start start, I propose that we formally vote on which rule set to use as we didn’t come to a consensus on that. The options are: The 29 rule Official Set or The 3 rule Original Shard Set I vote we use the 3 rule set.

Here.

Odiumn

Granted, but in order for the nightwatcher to preform this much magic on your spirit web she has to nearly shatter it, leaving you completely insane. You could call them Keepers after the order that they all belonged to. (I think they were called keepers, not sure) I wish to win the new game of Nomic

“I understood that reference”

Lol it’s not actually 301 rules, it’s like 29. The way the rules are indexed makes them go 101-116, 201-213, 301- XXX. I am down for starting with just the OG 3, but I’ll probably propose some of the 29 Officials right at the start.

Adonalsium

The Official ruleset talks about a judge, who is that going to be? Is it decided once the game starts? Should we have a judge at all?

I propose that in some future dynasty, once we know how the games tend to go, we use the original 3 rules from the original 17th shard Nomic game, instead of the “official” rule set we will use most of the time. I think starting with these three rules might make the game a bit more chaotic and difficult, so not the best to start with, but I think having less restrictions will make it more fun to build from the ground up.

Seems good, I’ll be mildly busy at the time but not so much that I won’t be able to start.