Asharielle

4 hours ago, Ammanas said:

1. I was almost positive that a past State of Sanderson said Skyward was cosmere but it looks like it will not be.

@Ammanas I was at an event tonight in  England and during the signing part afterwards I specially asked Brandon if Skyward was cosmere and he said that it wasn't because there had to be references to earth for the story to work.

18 hours ago, Starla said:

@Asharielle Welcome! I also lurked for a long time before gathering up the nerve to post. Eventually my love for the books and need to talk about them exceeded my shyness, and now I can't shut up. 

I’ve continued to ponder the Kaladin/Stormfather interactions, and I think I’ve settled on them being mental projections by the Stormfather. Rereading the highstorm vision in the chasm scene convinced me, because Kaladin and Shallan both had a different vision, and Kaladin stood up and moved around during his. If he was seeing into Shadesmar, I think he would have fallen in a sea of beads or described the scene differently.

Taking into account that the stormfather can project visions to Dalinar and anyone else of his choice, and spren in shardblade form can speak telepathically with their radiant, there must be some sort of mental connection between spren and human where visual and auditory communication can happen.

There are also Kaladin’s highstorm dreams, which seem to be something different. He actually saw Szeth murder someone during the dream, and felt that Szeth could sense his presence. That sounds a bit like an out of body experience. Kaladin became lucid and realized he was dreaming while his body was back on the Shattered Plains, and his consciousness was traveling with the storm in real time. I don't believe this has happened to anyone else in the story. I assume it is Syl's connection with Stormfather that gives him this unusual access to the storm.

I am fascinated by these interactions and hope we’ll get some answers when the Stormfather projects his visions to others.

@StarlaHello and thank you! I have been on the verge of joining up to post a few times but I knew it was definitely going to happen after getting into these discussions on the new chapters. 

I don't know why I had completely dismissed the fact that the Storm Father can give visions! It is such a good point! I definitely think you are right, that and like you said, Kaladin not falling into a sea of beads in the chasms and Shallan seeing something else makes it pretty convincing that it's a vision/the Storm Father's creation. 

Man, these books turn me gooey inside with how amazing they are and the amount of depth to them. Can. Not. Wait. For. Tuesday. Squeek. 

On 2017-11-8 at 9:22 PM, Starla said:

I am curious where Kaladin goes when he sees the Stormfather. Quote from Chapter 31:

Is it some place between the physical and cognitive realms, outside of time? Or is it happening inside his head, like a dream, similar to the highstorm dreams? I don't recall seeing any other instances of this otherworldly place, aside from Stormfather encounters. I believe Eshonai had a similar experience in the WOR, when she bonded the storm spren in the highstorm.

Ocasional lurker (possibly moved on to Obsessive since the the pre-release chapters) here,  delurking herself. I have been loving reading everyone's posts and reactions to the pre-release chapters. Not sure that I will miss the singular torture of having to wait a whole week for more of the good stuff though!

Oathbringer quote

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Kaladin stood in that strange space where he’d seen the Stormfather before—a place that seemed outside of reality. The ground was far beneath him, dim, slicked with rain, but barren and empty. Kaladin hovered in the air. Not Lashed; the air was simply solid beneath him.

 

Emphasis mine.

So when I read that part I got the impression that Kaladin was in the Cognitive Realm mainly from his description of hovering in the air but not using a lashing but the air being solid. It made me think of how the sea is solid in CR so would it stand to reason that if you managed to get into the sky there then the air would be too? 

That was just the impression that I had but after writing it, I have started to think at what point would the air become solid? Obviously it's not solid at ground level so maybe I'm completely out and either like you said it's someplace in between or who knows!

I'm not sure if I've done things correctly with quoting/responding to people, if not, then sorry! First time post and all being too bashful to post previously.