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21 hours ago, hoiditthroughthegrapevine said:

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I actually asked Brandon at the Portland book signing if Hoid was the Girl who looked up, he didn't confirm or deny it, but he did look up sharply when I asked him (I thought he looked suprised).

I didn't fully get your thoughts on Hoid being the GWLU before, but I am seeing it now.  Very fascinating theories here.  And definitely now makes me wonder how implicit Hoid might be in shattering Adonalsium in the first place.  I haven't read any of the Liar of Partinel or anything so there may be things I am obtusely missing, but this is pretty fascinating. 

I have thought all a long that Hoid was overall benevolent, trying to generally save the world(s) or at least the greater Cosmere from the destruction of Odium/other dark powers, yet he also has this ambition to gather the powers of investiture in different ways almost to become a Shard without taking up any of the powers directly like others have.

But now I wonder if he's been the one breaking into Grandma Adolnalsium's Shardic Cookie Jars for eons and eons  Just showing up and stealing some treats all along, letting things break behind him as he gleefully runs off to torment someone else.

1 hour ago, insert_anagram_here said:

Actually, I did mention in some other thread (can't remember now sorry) that the girl's hair are white when she's climbing the wall. And somewhere it is said that Hoid has white hair even though he dyes it all the time. (Coppermind wiki)

Ah, I do think I noted that. 

Did we see Wit/Hoid in the chapter? Or does the epigraph mean something other than Hoid?

On 10/24/2017 at 4:39 PM, Aon Ati said:

I just have one question for is forum. Who told Shallan this story? It was given to her in a play but this seems to be an important story about Roshar's history. And who do we know who has a knack of telling important stories in a metaphorical way?

I like the idea that perhaps Hoid told her the story, or somehow was affiliated with the story being told to Shallan.  It's probably not right given the timelines, since it doesnt appear that Hoid knew Shallan before he met her at the Fair in one of the WOR flashbacks...

On 10/25/2017 at 7:21 AM, Wreith said:

 

This was actually my first thought. Not that he was the original one to tell Shallan the story, but that he was the last shadow and was tweaking her lightweaving, adding detail.
As I read, it just didn't seem to me that the shadow that calmly walked from the room matched the image of the creature cramming itself through a hole in the wall.

I considered that it might be Hoid leading Shallan to what she needed to see.

 

It's probably not true, but it was my first impression.

Well, here's the thing it seems nobody has mentioned yet. I got super excited when I came across this chapter because HOID is in the engravings at the beginning of the chapter.  But in my initial readings of it, it seems that he's not there -- that *thing* is, instead... unless, as @Wreith has said, perhaps it's HOID helping her find the thing...

In the past, it has been noted that either HOID is in the chapter when this masked man appears or at least people looking for Hoid.  So, where is Hoid here? 

20 hours ago, shadowwisp said:

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Oh no, this was just speculation on my part. We have no confirmation that they ever met. I was just speculating because word of Brandon is that Vasher arrived on Roshar with Nightblood. He no longer has Nightblood now, Nale has it. That's why I thought they might have met. 

 

Pretty solid thinkin’ there (said on voice of Lift)

On 11/24/2016 at 8:12 AM, shadowwisp said:

Anyone else pickup on this? Any thoughts or speculations? 

Demigods? What do you think Nale is referring to? Possible in-fighting among Heralds? Or does Odium have his own set of Heralds? 

Or was Nale mistakenly referring to Vasher? "Mistakenly" in the sense that Vasher is still alive. 

I was curious about who he killed too but now much more curious about the passing Vasher reference. 

but have I missed an encounter between Nale and Vasher? 

... I’m unclear how to add spoiler tags and figuring this is probably well know enough not to botch anything too badly if I do it wrong.. the rules and etiquette post just says “add spoiler tags” without instructions. Perhaps I will know the tags to type in my mind as my spren becomes more bonded with me? Lol

1 hour ago, thejopen27 said:

I think Ishar is lying. He has lied to Nale to help weaken the resistance to Odium.

Wait. What about Ishar?

I hadn’t thought of this before, but with Helaran apparently wanting to be a sky breaker (or had become one), is there some possibility he had traced the people his mother was affiliated with?

Yet, why would Jasna know of Shallan’s mother?

And, as was mentioned, why would Shallan have done anything “bad” enough to be executed?

And, why did Shallan’s mother say she was “one of us” and yet hate her at the same time?