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There was one vote on Sart by Yitzi, but they retracted it in favor of voting for me. I've already voiced my suspicions on that, and the following second vote by Sami. Anyway, yeah, that makes sense, Arinian. Though, if I am correct in my assumption about Yitzi, Sart is probably village. If that lynch is correct and Yitzi is elim, there's a good chance Sami is one too, and Sart is village.
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I think this is correct, btw. Feel free to correct any mistakes. (2)Orlok: Lopen, Len (3)Len: Jon, Mage, Ecth (2)Eternum: Yitzi, Sami (1)Yitzi: Eternum
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Please let this pizza thing become a running joke Jokes aside, I think I'm onto something here with Yitzi and Sami. I'd also like to apologize to Arinian, if you truly are who you say you are. My suspicions weren't really very founded, and aside from focusing on Sart there isn't really much you can be blamed for. Your vote manips are understandable, mainly because you only kinda just helped lynch people the entire thread suspected. If any Lightweavers read this, Arinian might need some protection this cycle. (Yes, I know they could also be lying, but I don't think they are.) EDIT: also, Arinian, if you could help me, y'know, not die, I'd be grateful. I already have 2 votes on me, and I suspect the elims have a Stoneward too.
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Thanks? Also, Mage beat me to it, but what kind of pizza am I?
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Yitzi, because of reasons I have mentioned previously + a bad gut read. I also have a slight elim read on Sami in light of recent events.
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Alright, people seem to be suspicious of me. Jon, can you please actually explain why you think I'm elim? (I won't ask Sami, because they seem to be busy. If I survive this cycle, they can voice their suspicions. If I don't, I guess I won't need to tell y'all you were wrong.) EDIT: Huh, now that I think about it, Sami voting for me out of the blue after Yitzi voted for me is very suspicious. I'm sure they won't be retracting their votes, though. Whatever they do at this point would probably look more suspicious.
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Orlok's been literally hiding in plain sight this game, posting and getting involved in discussion and yet nobody has any reads on him other than neutral, which is odd. I'm not sure whether I trust him either, but atm I think there are others that have a higher chance of being elim than Orlok. Right now I'm suspicious of Yitzi for reasons that I mentioned previously, and I'm also suspicious of Arinian for tunneling Sart, while I have a slight village read on Sart himself. I think I'll vote for one of the two I mentioned, but I'll keep waiting for now and see if anyone has anything to add.
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Here's the page, Len. I'm not exactly sure why you want it though.
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Yitzi, it wasn't so much defending Sart as it was accusing Arinian. I think Sart is village, yes, but I could be wrong. You, though, I'm getting a bad gut read on now. You first voted on Sart, who at this point is an easy way out, as a lot of us are suspicious of him. Now you change the vote to me, again, an easily lynchable target for the fact that I am one of the few of whom people have been suspicious of to one degree or another the entire game. Thing is, you have no way to lynch me without doing some mental gymnastics. Sure, my posts haven't been squeaky clean, but whose are? We've lynched 3 villagers at this point. I also don't see where the idea that I was defending Sart came from. I did not defend them. I voted for Arinian because they were tunneling Sart more than anything, even if I am suspicious of them for more than just that, but I went with my gut and left the vote. If you do manage to lynch me, great job. All I'll have left is, in Ecth's words, a postmortem told-you-so.
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Wait. What? I don't understand. Was Jon lynched, or was Rae? Also, my vote was changed from Arinian to Sart. For what reason, I do not know, but that just makes me even more suspicious of them. Or they might be getting framed. This feels like a very very overt move. Probably by the village, if I'm being honest. As for Rae, I suspected they were village before, but losing another Dustbringer is rough. We have to get an elim this cycle. Things aren't going well.. Analysis of Jon TBA.
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Yes, I have. I actually said I had, when Rae said that they were suspicious of me for using terminology in my first SE game. I've only played twice total though, three including this game, so I am pretty new.
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Arinian, because they're tunneling Sart a lot and acting suspicious, as pointed out by Sart himself. My gut also tells me they're elim, and I generally trust my instincts.
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I honestly don't think Sart is elim. I'm leaning towards voting for Arinian, but I'll wait just in case anyone has anything to add. I intend to vote in the next hour or so, though.
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Arinian, I think you're overanalyzing Sart's post. The use of the word "duty" doesn't mean that they didn't want to vote, it just means they had to. The emphasis you added forgets that he said "I wanted to vote". (Emphasis mine, if it's not obvious) Also, the reason Jon and Lopen dropped their accusations is because (I'm making assumptions here, correct me if I'm wrong) that post, to me at least, feels village-y, and it must have read village to them too, I think. I'll keep withholding my vote to see if anyone else wants to add something. EDIT: Oh, alright then Mage. I read a bit too much into it, then. Sorry? (If anyone wants clarification, Lopen said earlier in this cycle that I was one of his elim suspects because I had been inactive compared to most these past couple of days, though I have clarified why. I thought Mage was talking about that.)
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Mage, you misunderstood my post. I'm not saying Lopen is part of a WGG, I was responding to his question. He asked why a C1 WGG was more strategically viable. I think Lopen is village, tbh. Also, was that last sentence throwing shade at me?
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I don't know if that's a compliment, but I think I'll take it as one
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A C1 WGG is more strategically viable because at C1 people have no more than mild suspicions and gut reads, I think. Someone that's "cleared" C1 will probably gain more trust than someone "cleared", say, C4. (*Snort*, C4) Also, honestly, don't tell us. It'll only benefit the elims.
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Eh, don't worry about it too much. People didn't even listen when El said to put our votes as separate posts, if it helps.
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I would also like to mention that if the writeup is any good, it's likely Lopen was saved by a Lightweaver.
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Heh, okay. I see.
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Rae, I've played mafia before. (Granted, only twice, but hey.) Doesn't take long to learn terminology. It wasn't all that hard to transfer what I knew to here. Also, as I mentioned before, there is a list of all the terminology in one of the pinned posts. I read it. I'm using them. At this point, this isn't suspicion, this is nitpicking. Why would a noob elim know the terminology, and a noob village not? EDIT: Sigh, sorry if I'm coming off as offensive or overprotective. I'm tired and hungry.
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Again, as I said, timezones.
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Alright, you have a point, hence my edit (before your post) adding the acknowledgement that there are other possibilities. I would honestly rather trust Lopen than start being wary of one of the people that have contributed the most to the conversation. Also, cycle 1 WGGs make a certain amount of sense, if I'm being honest. Cycle 4 doesn't make much sense to me, though. And as you've said, there is no (or rather, not much) suspicion targeted at Lopen.
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Oh, oops. Crap. I didn't vote. Ohhh.... It ends at 7am, not 8am... Stupid timezones. So we just lost a Dustbringer. That can't be good. But now that we know Lopen is cleared (Rae, it's called a Wounded Gazelle Gambit for a reason. The elims don't have any reason to try it this early.. If you were joking, sorry?) , we can move on to other suspects, maybe. Lopen, you include me in a list of elim suspects because I haven't posted a lot or made any wild claims. The first is because I've been out of town recently, and I've posted whenever I had time and internet. I was camping the day before yesterday, that's why I didn't vote, and didn't vote last cycle because I fell asleep and woke up 11 minutes after the cycle ended, realizing my mistake :l The second is because I am very much a team player, and will support anyone who has a good idea and some credibility, as shown in cycle 1 when I voted for Flash after Rae voiced her suspicions. Honestly, I'm not a good enough player to make any informed guesses or sensible claims. It goes without saying that a team player in a game where you don't know your team is gonna have a hard time. Also, Orlok, last cycle you asked whether I wasted time coming up with that plan. I did not. I always try not to overthink things, first because paranoia should be kept under heavy chains and released only when Damnation's all broken loose, and second because if I do I'll eventually decide against whatever I'm planning and go back to square one. Wait, what? Len's post just appeared as I was typing. That's very very suspicious. That probably wasn't a village Dustbringer, so why would the elims try to keep Sart alive? It might be that a village Dustbringer did it and Len is elim.. (Yes I am aware there are other possibilities) I'll think about it over breakfast, maybe.. *Stomach growls*
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Orlok, I already did read through the last cycle after I posted my response to Bard, but I asked because the answer could give more clues towards the identity of the person responding. If they left important/semi-important details out, we'd be able to call them out on it. If they sneakily threw suspicion at someone in a post that should just be neutral, then they're also suspicious. And if someone responded honestly, there's a decent chance they're village. It wasn't that good of a ploy, honestly. I tried?
