Omar Alm81

Kal will ascend. In RoW, while Kal was climbing the out side of the tower Brandon used the words "as Kaladin ascended" it could've been 'climbed' that's my theory and i'm sticking to it

Me neither, I was just listening to it right before I posted. I never subscribed to Gavinor being the child because of the word suckling. And as @Waffles said I think Nale makes more sense than Dalinar. Oh I didn’t think about him fighting with a knife if you could remind me please which scene/s was that.

"I hold the suckling child in my hands, a knife at his throat, and know that all who live wish me to let the blade slip. Spill its blood upon the ground, over my hands, and with it gain us further breath to draw." In my re read, well actually listening to the GA, I got to the part where Dalinar touches Nale and sees him through time, here is the quote: "Nale, cradling a child in one arm, his blade out, as dark forces crawled across a ridge nearby" could those quotes be the same incident? Maybe sacrificing, killing, the child will keep the "dark force" at bay, "gain us further breath to draw". IDK it just caught my attention and thought to share and see.

Thanks, I was racking my brain trying to remember if he had some lucid moments.

Agreed, plus the 4000 years of torture can do that. I don’t really recall but does Jezrien, Ahu, become madder in between the scenes we meet him in till Moash you know what? Or is he the same level of madness from the beginning?

Might this be the end of book 5? Has there been any Desolation where Odium's forces "take the day"? I find the Rattles fascinating, it's like hey do you want some straight up foreshadowing? Well, here you go, have fun.

@Bejardin1250 Like this, lol I don’t know, I wasn’t a big believer in the child champion theory until I remembered the conversation between Dalinar and Taravangian about morality then T ascended and now I look at the conversation a different way

"Victory! We stand atop the mount! We scatter them before us! Their homes become our dens, their lands are now our farms! And they shall burn, as we once did, in a place that is hollow and forlorn." Does this have any connection to the humans coming to Roshar and taking it from the Singers/Listenrs. The place that is hollow and forlorn might refer to Ashyn.

Bejardin1250 Exactly, who does "The feast I must drink clings to their faces" refer to, the only ones are the Singers/Listeners. in the sentence before it just mentioned friends so the "their" must refer to the "friends" I don't know if its important or not and because English is not my first language it just bothered me ever since I read it.

I took it literally lol

“Above the final void I hang, friends behind, friends before. The feast I must drink clings to their faces, and the words I must speak spark in my mind. The old oaths will be spoken anew.” in the coppermind it says this rattle is about Kal before saving Dalinar. Only that he says “friends behind, friends before. The feast I must drink clings to their faces. So are the singers/listeners friends to Kal?

1- Odium has lost Kal as Champion per RoW ending. 2- Suckling child means a very young child, or a child that still takes milk, so I think that excludes Gav from this rattle.

I dont know about Kaladin's accent being a hick's accent, but then again Im not American, I only know the "stereotypical" accent. You might want to give it another try theres a couple of epic scenes on YT from it, I really enjoyed it I think you might.

1- Adolin, hands down, fun and easy going, loyal, great wingman, and handy in a fight. 2- Dalinar, no explanation needed. 3- Dalinar, Kaladin, Szeth. 4- Szeth, Renarin, Sja-Anat. 5- Lopen, Lift. 6- Ulim. 7- Renarin/Teft. 8- Teft, been there. 9- Syl, she’s intelligent and articulate. But seriously, Rushu. 10- Teft, again.