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  1. 45 minutes ago, Chaos said:

    Time for sure. Time is very precious there. But this week has been productive. I've gotten a lot of things off my to-do list. 

    I had been trying to ask what it was that took the most of your time, and added the 'or otherwise' when it occurred to me at the last minute that there may be some resource like patience or interest that was being consumed more than time.  That said, I can easily see where your interpretation came from.

  2. 20 hours ago, Ishar said:

    This thread is 355 pages. I find it difficult to believe that anybody reads through all 355 pages of this thread, but even if they do, I find it hard to believe that they still have reputation points leftover when they reach page 269.

    Also not me who gave the upvote, but I am that kind of person.  When I read, I must start at the beginning.  So I started at the fist post of you know you're a Sanderfan part one and read all the way up to the most recent post in you know you're a Sanderfan part two, stoping for the day whenever I ran out of upvotes to give.

  3. 21 hours ago, Eternal Khol said:

    Preservation never had any splinters and his mind was almost nothing. wouldn't that count as reduced?

    I think that the extent of the reduction would affect the time taken for a shard to splinter, and perhaps the guidance from the vessel would need to be removed entirely.  

     

    An idea that I had as I was re-reading the origional theory:  What if we used as a model the concept of a Shard being a collection of splinters, each representing a thing that the shard wants done, with a small allocation of power to influence things in that direction, rather than a singular whole?  The focus then would not be so much on the splintering itself (under this idea, the Shard comes pre-splintered), but on causing the vessel to lose control of all the splinters that make up the larger entity of a Shard.  I think that could be a much easier task.  Splintering as we know it would then occur when the pre-existing splinters lose their sense of Shardic identity, and the connection between them is no longer strong enough that any vessel could bind with one of these splinters and assert controll of the others.  Reforgeing the Shard would also be an option by trying to collect all of the splinters in a singular vessel, and hold them long enough to restore their connections and sense of Shardic identity.

  4. 18 hours ago, Eternal Khol said:

    Preservation did not use his Power to make Ruins prison. he used his mind

    I had thought that the mind was considered part of a Shard's power.

     

    The actual theory seems to have held up to the debate so far.  It seems to be well established that a Shard over-extending its resources will, at some point, splinter; especially if the guidance from the vessel is reduced or eliminated.  Do we want to try to find counter examples to look for flaws in the theory, or do we want to continue on to the mechanics of how to cause a Shard to over-extend itself to the point that it splinters?

  5. Excellent points.  Thank you for the correction.

    The OP's theory, to reduce scrolling and spoilered for length:

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    On 5/4/2020 at 5:42 PM, Karger said:

    Splintering happens when the enough of a shard's investiture is pushed into the cognitive and physical realms.  The way I think about it is this.  A platonic ideal is too complex to exist in the physical realm or the world where we live.  You can't look at or touch hate or honor or stasis.  You can see their effects like shadows on the wall of a cave but you can't touch the thing that creates them.  In the cognitive realm things exist in a state of thought.  Putting an ideal there is like trying to ask a computer what love is.  The answer is not something a computer can give. 

    Here is the thing.  Contrary to the belief of early science fiction writers a computer that is given an impossible question will actually not blow up or start blasting smoke from its vents.  Instead a good computer will take a small part of its possessing power and create a discrete thread.  The critical stuff will stay in place.  People who understand computers better can explain more but a small piece of the main whole running a complex directive could sound like someone is trying to describe a splinter.  If you make enough splinters then eventually you probably run out of investiture and the shard is gone as a threat.  Given roshar's spren population this is most probably not a convenient way to destroy a shard.  However if this analogy is valid doing so quickly and completely might resemble a wabbit also called a fork bomb where no splinter is stable and instead splits itself again and again destroying a shards integrity and crashing the whole thing.  This may have been Odium's strategy with the Dor.

    To get back on track, as I see it the theory states that a Shard is splintered when it is made to over-extend itself, and is left with too many demands on its resources to remain stable.

    If I have understood correctly, I would like to bring up the state of Preservation before Vin's ascension.  It seems that he had had so much of his power invested in Ruin's prison that he was unstable, yet he did not splinter.  Do we know if Preservation would have splintered if no one had ascended to become its vessel?

  6. 14 hours ago, ILuvHats said:

    It’s possible some huge event did occur when Honor’s investiture was stuffed into the physical realm, but since nobody could explain the event, the connection between the two was never made. 

    I think that for huge events we could also add the shattering of the shattered plains to the list.  

     

    As far as where Honor's investiture is, I had always assumed it to be mostly in the physical realm, due to all the spren and also the effects of the highstorm.  That said, would determining the location help advance the theory of how to splinter a Shard?

  7. I think that my point of view can best be summed up as "I think, therefor I am".  I can observe the world around me, and I can act in line with my preferences.  Independent of how deterministic the universe may be, my will to do something exists, even if only as a perceived preference between physical needs, and I am free to follow it, even if only as the natural result of some complex chain of events in my head.  Is this not free will?  The ability to have preferences and follow them?

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  9. On 5/4/2020 at 9:01 PM, Elsecaller_17.5 said:

    This seems at least partially correct, but I would think if that's all there was we'd see more situations like the Dor on Sel.

    I suspect that the plane where the splinters manifest may be influenced by the form/direction the combat takes.  If the Shard is primarily active in a specific realm, I would expect that splintering said shard would leave the Splinters in the same realm.  If the Shards are not all focused on the same realms, they probably will not end up having their Splinnters in the same realms.  Of corse, this presumes that Odium "stuffing the Splinters of Dominion and Devotion into the Cognitive realm" was not so much actually moving them there as waiting for a time to strike that would result in the Splinters being traped their without any Intent to guide them back.  The search for an intent to guide themselves back to the Pysical realm would also explain the semi-random selection of Elantrians, as a type of "mini-vessel".

  10. Thanks for the response!  I was not really set on Debian, that was just my example because I knew that they had generic images.  Do you have any ideas about where I could look for the old mobile version of Ubuntu, or where I should check to find drivers?  Is it possible for me to get the driver files off of the device?

  11. I recently found an old Ematic Funtab pro, and I decided that I wanted to make it into something useful, or turn it into a brick trying.  I have been unable to get to any sort of bootloader or recovery menu, but while looking around with 

    adb shell

    I found a flash_image command, which I intend to try to use to put a new image on, unless anyone else wants to recommend something different.  My main question, for those of you still reading, is where should I go to get the image to put on the tablet?  I have checked for just a generic android image, similar to how you can find generic versions of Debian at https://www.debian.org/distrib/, but there does not seem to be any such thing for android.  I have not been able to find reports on what kind of hardware the Funtab uses, so I do not know if I will need specific drivers for any of it, but I am willing to try without any drivers.  Any help would be appreciated.

     

    P.S.

    Before someone posts it, I know that devices like these are typically considered worthless, bricks, or better off left alone, and that any attempt to change them may break them and is almost certainly a waste of my time.  

  12. I just had the idea a few nights back that Inquisitors would probably love nail guns as a way of spiking things, so I invite you to add to the list of unusual armaments that may be useful to Inquisitors, not just as ways of spiking people.

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