Telmond

My teacher always told me to stick to what I know. So I would proberbly just draw stick figurines.some would be tall, some would be fatter, some would be short, and some might even have hair!!!!

1 hour ago, hwiles said:

No, but I can see now how my previous statement was misleading in that way.  We haven't received a precise WoB explaining literally what is going on when someone burns atium.  I believe Sanderson spoke about Elend's experience duralumining his atium and basically confirmed that he was "looking into," "partially entering," or otherwise "expanding his presence" in the spiritual realm, which then let him see and understand Preservation's ultimate plan.  From this, the community has generally extrapolated that burning atium allows a person to "look into," "partially enter," or otherwise "expand their presence," in the spiritual realm, simply to a lesser magnitude than what Elend experienced.

We also have it confirmed that, 1) the power granted by atium isn't and never was fully understood by anyone we've seen use it (he said this before BoM and SH came out though I believe, so this may be revised in the future), 2) atium might have a side-effect, similar in nature but distinct in function to lerasium's side-effect, and 3) WoB for clarity:

The simplest answer to your original question is that the power received by burning a God metal doesn't have to be related to the Intent of the Shard it came from.  This is pretty well confirmed.

I, like you, find this to be a relatively unsatisfying answer, however, getting a more rigorous canonical explanation might be unlikely before Sanderson has finalized when, where, how, and which, shards are going to interact with Scadrial, Scadrians, and Ruin/Preservation/Harmony.  (though Lost Metal might also shed some light on your inquiry)

In the meantime, I think I'm going to adopt @Ferumancer 's explanations.  They're simple elegance makes them, IMO, decent candidates to eventually be, if not actively acknowledge as canon, then at least generally accepted.  I'm with @The One Who Connects , if you have some further musings on atium and Ruin I'd be interested in giving them a look.

Thx a lot that's a perfect answer.

Have an upvote

9 minutes ago, hwiles said:

I would refrain from over-thinking this one.  Allomancers burning atium, which is a more-or-less crystallized form of Ruin's Investiture, are able to peek into the spiritual realm, which just so happens to grant brief future sight and an expanded mind.  I think @Ferumancer 's second explanation is probably about as good as we can hope for at the moment.  Plus, didn't Leras basically suckerpunch Ruin in order to rip away the Investiture needed to create The Pits and atium to begin with?  I would think that once the Investiture was separated from Ruin, the form it manifested could be determined independent from Ruin's limitations, Intent, and Influences.  At least to a degree.

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Before Leras dies, he grants Kelsier a glimpse into the spiritual realm (granting him insight on the metallic arts and the future) that appears much more intense and detailed than the glimpse typically provided by atium.  Whether this is because he's better at seeing the future than Ati or simply because he was fueling Kelsier's peek into the spiritual realm directly is unclear.

 

So your saying burning atium only allows you to see into the spiritual realm? That it has no other properties?

So I was wondering if there's a direct correlation between Ruin and seeing into the future. Why does burning Atium specifically give you the ability to see into the future?

Welcome to the 17th shard!!!

Always good to see new people join (I'm also sorta new). Have fun and under no circumstances except the cookies!!!

2 minutes ago, Secrets said:

You mean that giving out Hemalurgic blessings cookies is a problem?

The problem is that you guys give it out like its candy

1 hour ago, Humpty said:

Wasn't lift born around the time Dalinar sought out the old magic.. Any chance she is a bastard daughter of Dalinar?

OK so I checked it and I don't think its possible. According to the storm light wiki Dalinar sought the old magic after his wife died in 1163. The current year in WOK is 1173, so 10 years before, and lift is 12 I think

5 minutes ago, Eagle of the Forest Path said:

I've got this (somewhat far-fetched) theory that Lift's got Terris ancestry. It makes sense to me, but I won't expect it to to anyone else, since it's based on assumptions and wishes, mostly.

It might be possible. By the time we find out about her past Brandon will have explained the cosmere in a lot more depth, and that might explain crossovers between the stories, and make it plausible.

1 minute ago, nervousnerd said:

I wouldn't think that Aimians and humans would be able to mate. Then again, I thought the same of the Parshendi and humans.

I feel like it doesn't matter though. I kind of want to see her become a powerful hero despite her upbringing.

Wait parshendi and humans can mate together?

I saw a theory somewhere that theorizes that lifts dad is an aimian. So if that is true then it could explain her wish to never change (aimians are said to have the ability to change their  appearance). And it could be a possibility that as a side effect of her repressed abilities manifested in other ways (like being able to see spren and turning food into storm light).

Welcome!

Fellow newbie/cookie taster here coming to warn you to not under any circumstances eat the cookies (its ruined my life).

No but seriously the people here in this community here are so nice its creepy. (I like to picture them as the witch in Hanzel and Gretel who acts nice while giving you candy/cookies only with the intent on eating you).

Like when your friend is chocking and you pat him on the back and say

"My life to yours,  my breath become yours."

4 minutes ago, DarkJester said:

I just realized that there's another one that I always forget... Legion... Admittedly, I've only read Skin Deep, but it was really good.

Yes but unfortunately I havnt been able to get my hands on legion yet and I've been more occupied in getting arcanum unbound and alkatraz

I used to be a bridgeman like you, then I took a shardblade to the knee.

Why does a shardblade need to be so long?
Well he has to compensate for something.

Like when you find out that you pronounce jasnah's name yasnah and not jassnah and you realise your life is over. (This actually happened to me)

When you read words of radiance in just two days, but its so good you start rereading it the next day (true story).

I could just picture your eyes glowing red as you say that to me. Well as long as its not those goddamn cookies it should be OK... *gets stabbed and sacrificed to the Voidbringers*

12 minutes ago, Secrets said:

Rithmatist was really good... when at school I have some very similar problems.... very interesting magic to, makes me sad its non Cosmere...

Rithmatist? Forgotten?  wow...

If you like it, head over to the Rithmatist section in the non-Cosmere forums.... watch out though, hardcore geometry ahead (seriously, I've taken geometry and I have trouble understanding the theories over there... well it has been a while since geometry...

Anyways welcome to the 17th Shard, I'm late as usual. My only book recommendations would be for you to read everything of Brandon's that you haven't so far. I think that would amount to Alcatraz (I'll just say this is... interesting...) and all of his short stories. Some of Brandon's short short stories are available on his website, and many that aren't are available in Arcanum Unbounded. And  as my usual courtesy, have some complimentary upvotes and cookie!

Wow...

I though I posted this about 16 hr. earlier, but apparently not. How curious...

 

OK so I've seen the Rithmatist section and what I meant by everyone forgets it is that if you ask someone what books Brandon wrote most people leave Rithmatist till the end (or not at all).

As for the short stories I've been looking on Brandon's site almost daily for the past year and a half so Im good there.

Thanks for all the support you guys are so nice to new users its almost creepy(does this have to do with the cookies I shouldn't be accepting?)

I swear, my dear. Sometimes our conversations remind me of a broken sword."

She raised an eyebrow.

"Sharp as hell," Lightsong said, "but lacking a point.

55 minutes ago, Nashan'Elin said:

Ash fell from the sky.

Interesting choice can u tell me why?

Just now, Figberts said:

I am a stick

From mistborn: a secret history yes?

Yes for some reason Rithmatist is always forgotten and it's a shame since is my favorite ya series by Brandon (yes more then steelheart)

Just eat the pancakes plain with the knowledge that it will turn into stormlight and make you awesome like lift!!!!! ( chocolate also works)

Problem- that moment when your on the toilet with no toilet paper