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Also so far as curiosity goes I vote Trell all the way, he seems like a very major player, he has been confirmed as being on 2 of the worlds and is still a huge mystery but not one that we know absolutely nothing about. For example does the Fact that Trells metal can be found on Scadrial mean that he had a hand in creating it? What happened between him and Nalt, as I assume that he didn't just leave his brother somewhere, and which shard is he as seems to be based around the stars and not so much a way of thinking/life as the others are?

It'll be like 'And Then There Were None' by Agatha Christy all over again thanks, at least we will be safe, well at least until Nalt finds out, then I'm pretty sure we are more likely dead than the rest...

if they are assassins they wouldn't be fighting him when he is a full shardbearer, they would strike specifically when he was least protected, when he would only have his Shardblade and be very possibly intoxicated or drowsy.

But they aren't really, Shardblades are, more or less, just about as good inside as outside, assassins may assume that Shardblades are bad for close quarters but it doesn't really make much difference seeing as they just cut through things that get in the way, when ever Shardbearers fight it is almost always close quarters, look at the battles on the shattered plains, they are surrounded and pretty much covered in bodies but they still fight with no difficulty, or the fight between Szeth and Gavilar, the close quarters didn't hinder either of the to any extent really, so while assassin may assume that, its not really true.

I think that would make the most sense, he and his brother could be shards such as jealousy and gratefulness or something, but I don't really know, I doubt any of us really do, we really don't have all that much to go on about Trell, he's just kinda mentioned here and there, I was just curious as to people theories about how he fits in and why his name (and Nalt's) wasn't on the list on the first page.

ok, thanks, so Trell might be like Adonalsium, he isn't, so far as we know, a shard, but he is still a very powerful force, one we can assume is pre-shattering, Also we know he has been to 2 of the worlds (Scadrial and Roshar, which we know because of myths and stories) Does that mean that there was possibly more than one great power of creation? If so might he have helped Odium to shatter Adonalsium in the hopes of gaining his power? Trell was said to be very jealous so it doesn't seem that out there that if he was a force from the pre-shattering era, he might have helped shatter Adonalsium so that he could try and collect the shards himself.

sorry but that was slightly confusing to me, are you saying that the Trell in Mistborn is not the same Trell as spoken of by the people at salt lake, that it is just a name he took to confuse Saized/Harmony, or that Trell and Nalt were both hosts, much like Ati and Leras, or that Trell is just another name for Odium and that he some how beat his opposite, who was Nalt, or something else completely?

I don't think the ramifications from Dalinar will be that bad so long as one of Kaladin's squad talks a bit of sense into him, I was going to say that kaladin would fix the problem since he will be extremely happy to see sadeas in all likelyhood after he killed so many of his bridge crew but I remembered that he's headed home so he won't be around, so long as one of his squad steps in though, like Teft, they should be able to diffuse most of Dalinar's anger with reasoning so he is left with just the disappointment, given this is a very optimistic idea seeing as kaladin's squad isn't nearly as close to dalinar as Kaladin is but its still a possibility

i forget what the story was about so maybe this makes no sense but my imidiate thought Scadrial, there are two worlds there, that of the main characters such as wax and wayne, and then that of the other people, the people with the masks and the flying machines, also 2 gods have died there, both ruin and preservation, though i suppose you could argue they live on in Saized, also the man who didn't know who he was could easily refer to Kelsier after he returned for the dead in that case as i bet when we get the rest of his story, if we get it, he will be very confused as to what/who he is after seeing all he did in the cognitive realm

I'm curious, where do you guys think Trell fits into all of this, which shard is he, he has been mentioned on both Roshar and Scadrial but who is he really? Also what about his opposite, Nalt, where are they, who are they, and what are they trying to accomplish at the moment, Nalt seems not to have come up aside from in the stories by the people of the salt lake which is concerning as he has essntialy dissapeared, but Trell might be even more concerning at the moment as he seems to be trying to fight saized, and doing fairly well, even though saized should have twice the power he does.

oops, sorry, I guess I miss interpreted the healing, I thought szeth could only do it since he had the windrunner honor blade

Kaladine heals himself in book two WoR when he fights Szeth in the palace and his arm is cut through with a shard blade, thats not just kaladin, thats the second surge the windrunners have and whats his face, the guy with one arm, grows his arm back once Kaladin accepts his roll as a futur KR and his squad gains his abilities, and yes, they are combat oriented (i never said they weren't, i said they weren't made to be offensive) because they are essentialy the honor guard of the orders.

yah, the Skybreakers are the offensive warriors, they are built to kill, seek vengeance and destroy , where as the Windrunners are the defense, they are designed to get places quickly, protect everyone, heal when needed but they aren't aloud to go seek out the enemy and counter attack, they need to stay back and protect the other orders that don't have powers that are as fighting based, or at least that what it seems like based off of what Kaladin and Szeth are like and the half told stories about the 2

here's one of the simpler versions:

since death point disintegrates every thing but the bones maybe his power starts on the out side and works its way in, destroying flesh, then muscles and tendons and stuff, if that's it when he pointed it would start with his impenetrable skin and would have gotten stopped there seeing as it couldn't burn through the first layer it needed to in order to get to the rest of the body, it seems like a fairly stable theory, at least IMO, I have no actual proof though seeing as he died like five minutes into the book

ok, i'll do that when I reread it, might be a while though since I haven't finished all his other books yet maybe, that sounds reasonable. if that's it it probably would have saved the country a lot of trouble but the priests would end up stopping what endowment tried to do inadvertently because they kept obeying Warbreaker's command not to let anyone use the breaths and cutting out there tongues

sorry, I started with the annotations but, well they did take away from the story some what with the being between the chapters ( at least in the eBook form)

We don't know thats all he did, we only descovered a little about his old life in his final minutes, we don't truely know whether or not he endowed people his entire life, for all we know he could have gotten up every day and givin food to all the people on his street for free, thats not nessecairly the most likely theory, but its possible. Also he was a scribe which means which might be considered endowing people with knowledge, it doesn't seem like much but over time that might have built him up to near the nessecary amout of endowment and the final act of saving his neice and endowing her with life might have pushed him just over the line into returned levels of endowment.

Maybe they aren't acctually babies, the Returned can take any form they want, if they decided suconciously that they felt happiest/most godly as a child then maybe they would revert to that form when they returened. After all we have never acctualy seen an example where the baby has died in the womb and returned as it was givin birth to, though it may have been mention alot of common beliefs in the world of Warbreaker seem to be missconseptions with just a hint of truth, as in all the worlds.

well it wouldn't be hard to get him into a trap, they just have to bait him like they did in the book, into a trap room, as per his energy blasts i'm sure with the right money they could buy something like titanium (or simply steal it) that even he wouldn't just be able to blast through and to use as the walls then simply gas him. you are however right, I didn't think about the fact that he could just hold his breath forever and have no problem until he eventually melted even something as strong as titanium.

oh, thanks for letting me know, I try to keep up to date with most stuff Brandon related but between the books I still need to read, the podcasts and the occasional lecture its pretty hard to stay on top of most of what's going on. WARNING: Slight mistborn spoiler the multiverse sounds fun and I would 100% like to learn more about whatever type of being Calamity was though the idea of it being from Mizzy's POV is kinda disappointing, I feel like the right mood wouldn't be there for her to be a hero, a bit like how it was with spook after Kelsier died, he was pretty much just a want to be Kelsier and I feel like Mizzy would be pretty much the same thing, only a want to be David, since David is her biggest hero for killing Steelheart.

WARNING: Spoilers for Calamity So guys, what theories do you guys have about what will happen in book 4, if there is one, here's a quick list of some of mine: - we learn more about the gods/entities that inhabit the realm Calamity was sent from, things such as: what they are, what there goal is, and why they sent Calamity to earth in the first place (was it a punishment or a test as Calamity seems to believe?) -The main story line will be about the hunt for Obliteration or maybe another similar Epic who seems to think that they were sent by god to destroy the world, a little like what's happening in the dimension firefight is originaly from -we learn more about David's father and about that dimension as well as learning quite a bit more about what megan can really do now that she doesn't have to fight the darkness, can she pretty much do anything now, (sumon things, control winds, give herself prime invincibilities) seeing as she can pull stuff over from other dimensions? What do you guys think will happen and what do you think of my theories?

yep did it say that she was only reborn at sunrise? i always thought it was more a time thing, after she died she needed, say 12 hours, to fully return/be brought entirely out of the other dimension.

yep, but what about gassing him, it seems to easy but it wouldn't have fallen under any of those peramiters

couldn't they just have gassed him or burned him or something then, that seems like it would be too easy, all they would have do to would be trap him and light him on fire, surely some one would have tried that.