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2 hours ago, Fatikis said:

We have three shards that have made a huge impact on Roshar. We have three potential bondsmiths. Seems pretty obvious to me that for some amount of time there was a peace between the three gods on Roshar. The Bondsmith order to balance this peace. 

The Stormfather was pissed about what humans did to to The Sibling. Humans probably turned on it because it was of Odium. That doesn't mean it was evil, but I imagine it was more along the lines what Odium pretends to be. Passion. That is why there is such a strong passion influence in Vorinism. Even many of the orders of knights seem to be link to Odium. 

Also note that at one point shall an talks about some texts saying that there are ten unmade and others saying nine, if on was a potential bond smith Spren wouldn't it make sense if it were confused with the unmade?

23 minutes ago, Calderis said:

I still see it staying a story of Mortals. The Shards will always remain as background forces, with people as the focus characters. Even Adonalsium was shattered by mortals. 

Whether they're all shattered, or there's a new Adonalsium, or there's just a couple peaceful shards left. Doesn't matter much to me at this point. Getting to a resolution and exploring the implications though...

I don't think it's a matter of want. I think it's a matter of compulsion by the intent. 

Cultivation is all about growth and change. If Honor hadn't been splintered, I think she'd already have taken up the power to take down Rayse. 

It a Shard is within reach and whole, I think she'll take it. 

I agree cultivation is about growing I think she would care less about destroying what she is then growth. If you graft a branch onto a tree it doesn't protest because it is like instantaneous growth and odium might change cultivation but it would certainly cause her to grow. Combined they might be something like domination? Maybe invaision?

I kinda wonder if we might he sja-Anat as the third one for each shard. She seems almost in appearance like a deadeye and- correct me if I'm wrong- there was a mention of her sometimes leading the voidbringers putting her a step above the other unmade possibly on the same level of storm father and night watcher

I was there too! I asked if a Larkin was to try and drain stormlight from a voidbringer what would happen and I got RAFO'd (got a card) and during the signing I asked if we would see Rysn in future books and he said she has an interlude in oathbringer

I was figuring I might ask about the interactions between a Larkin and a voidbringer thoughts?

Yeah I emailed them and they gave me a similar response. I think the Saturday will be better for opportunities to do Q&As right? With the Guest of Honour hour and all? 

Awesome! Thanks for the info! Do you know if he will be doing signings/Q&A all three days? Or will that be on a specific day?

I'm planning on going to Ad Astra to see Brandon. Does anyone know what day(s) he will be there? Thanks

I don't think that the cover is overly sexualized. I think the illustrator just went for a traditional "heroic" pose that just looks cool and flashy and isn't overly practical you see it often and I see this one as no different than the other covers. The only thing that sparked a controversy was the characters gender and the genres problem with its portrayal of that gender. I like the art though I agree the formatting ruins it but pinning it on the illustration seems wrong to me the format is what makes Jasnah so front and centre not necessarily the illustration 

2 minutes ago, one winged jhereg said:

Is it possible that Division works across all three realms (Physical, Cognitive, Spiritual)?  In regards to the Dustbringers, they preferred the name Releasers iirc. Could it be that they sever that bond between opponent and their spren?  Could the Skybreakers do something similar, thus letting them police the other orders?   I know we don't have enough information to make an educated guess on this, just something rolling around the old noggin.

 

PS  first time post, and cosmere noob so please forgive me if this has been discussed before.

Welcome to the shard! Anyway I think that ability to sever bonds doesn't make sense since honor seems to be all about bonds and surgebinding is (partially) his magic system. Even if it didn't conflict with honor I think it would be a tad over powered as either one could unbond voidbringers easily then finish them off. It seems more likely to be the opposite of regrowth rather than something that severs bonds

Unless I'm mistaken it's weight that causes planets to have gravitational pulls so could weight compounders who had stored enough weight gain their own gravitational pull and mess up planets? Like could a person in mistborn era 3 take a rocket ship into space then make their own planetary sling and hurl their own planet out of the cosmere? Or better yet into other planets?

Well that was kind of a depressing chapter. I still personally think Kaladin will summon his blade to defend himself and his eyes will go back to being light, then Laral will see him and think he got a shard blade for her (as she seemed to be encouraging him to do in the flashback chapters in Wok) and there will be an embarrassing scene with Laral being all excited and stuff

Isn't there speculation that some of the heralds are from other worlds? If this is true all it would take is one of the soulcasting heralds (shallash or bethab) to be off-world and aluminum could have been made.

Found another interesting excerpt:"so melishi retired to his tent and resolved to destroy the voidbringers upon the next day, but that night did present a different stratagem, related to the unique abilities of the bondsmiths; and being hurried he could make no specific account of his progress, it was related to the very nature of the heralds and their divine duties, an attribute the Bondsmiths alone could address." The heralds where created by the shards no? So could them speaking to the shards not make sense in this application? 

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Dalinar not sure though and about the little spearman in the distance I have no idea

32 minutes ago, maxal said:

I think Yata may have point.

There is another relevant WoB to this discussion which I would be hard-pressed to find, but someone linked Wyndle's appearances to Ym's spren using the fact Lift was being able to see through the cognitive realm. Eh it was not exactly in those words and I am convinced I am getting something wrong, so apologies in advance folks, but I did retain the fact Brandon told this person was very observant or smart or asked a good question. I do not recall  

Anyway, the point I am trying to raise is there is a connection in between the fact Lift is within the cognitive realm and Ym's spren appearance. I am not sure what the connection is exactly, but there is something in here the author has not wanted to tell us right away. I mean, what' the purpose of withholding information with regards to Ym's former order? He's dead. Why doesn't he want to tell us? There is a reason, this is for sure. However, ever since reading this WoB I am doing such a poor job out of quoting , I have revised my internal plotting and I have started to think Ym perhaps was an Edgedancer... We were so sure he was a Truthwatcher because the spren looked like light and it didn't have much in common with Wyndle... 

So what if Ym indeed is an Edgedancer? Why is it important NOT to tell us? Why is it important not to tell us what Glys looks like? 

Here is a potential answer sprouted by Yata earlier on: because knowing what Glys looks like would enable us to know which order Ym belongs to. While I do think something is off with Renarin and his visions, I also do not believe he has bonded a Voidspren which means I certainly believe he is a Truthwatcher. What information could potentially be hidden within Ym's short chapter which would be relevant to the Truthwatchers?

I can't see it. So what if the whole dilemma was linked to Ym actually being an Edgedancer? Why would it be relevant?

Perhaps because, as Yata suggested, Nale truly is hunting Edgedancers. Why? I do not know, maybe he has a personal vendetta against them, maybe Skybreakers and Edgedancers hated each other which I have no trouble believing based on what we know of both orders. We however have to consider the fact of all surgebinders, Nale didn't go for the obvious ones being in a position of power and thus, the most dangerous. He went to an elderly man in a remote village and to a young girl: both do not currently have the agency to influence anything within the world. Therefore, if surgebinders are dangerous, then why isn't he going after Jasnah, Shallan, Dalinar and Kaladin?

Why? Because he doesn't know about them? I don't believe it. Taravangian knew about Kaladin, he knew about Jasnah. Having Helaran among his followers, Nale would have known about Shallan. Dalinar is an easy guess. He could easily pin down a crime on each one of those to justify killing them, much more easily then he did for Lift and Ym. 

So why didn't he go for the most obvious, more powerful and actually dangerous Radiants?

I have no idea, but Yata's theory has merit. Maybe he is after the Edgedancers for reasons yet to explain, but the author doesn't want to give it away just yet. 

He did go after them didn't he? Wasn't he the "man with the strange birthmark"(or something like that) who dropped Kaladin & Shallan into the chasms?

I was reading through WoR and I noticed the chapter 44 epigraph said there where only 3 bond smiths. And storm father had previously said he was honor's spren could that mean that each bond smith bonded one of the shards godspren? Another interesting bit is that their trait is pious. All together it makes me think the bond smiths could commune with the shards and tell them to make more splinters smithing bondable spren does this make sense?

I kind of thought the truthwatcher spren looked like life spren (little glowing balls) sort of like how Syl looks like a wind spren.

I'm new so if this has already been discussed please tell me but could kelseirs link to physical realm be the spear head TLR impaled him with? Could that have stolen his allomancy and let him regain his powers? The bands being the spearhead that TLR is holding seems just so suspicious.....